Cost of authority objects

[Cookie]

How much does it cost to sustain village authority objects, per day?

There are three objects I am interested in: An idol, a charterstone and a crossroad.

Is there anything that makes the daily cost variable, such as if the crossroad has more signs on it?

[KoE]

Well I did a little search-fu (god I hate this forum's search function, by the way) and I dug up a post from loftar on the matter.

Only the idol actually drains authority (or it's the only one he mentions). I'm fairly certain crossroads don't drain it from personal experience, and I honestly don't know about charterstones but loftar didn't mention them. Idols drain 5000 authority per in-game day (or 15,000 per real-life day).

[Cookie]

Charterstones or crossroads have to drain something.

The report I get is that yesterday morning the village authority at New Brodgar was 0. At the end of the day when my source logged off the authority had risent to 7895. This morning when she logged on again it was back to 0. She also reports that during the time she is logged on the authority drains quite quickly, in one instance when she was doing sorting and not gaining any lp it slipped by 300 points. What we are trying to figure out is how much lp she has to earn each day to keep the idol from disappearing.

(And just to confuse matters although my name is Cookie, I am NOT the Cookie who was last known lawspeaker of Brodgar...)

Edit: Okay, wait. On re-reading I see I missed the most important point. The 5000 authority points per day that an idol costs is per game day. Ouch! So that makes a lot of sense. But oh, dear, the poor kid. She is going to have her work cut out for her trying to come up with that much lp on a reliable basis!

[KoE]

Well, I haven't been keeping super-tight numbers, but my village's drain rate has remained about the same with three crossroad posts and an idol. Crossroad posts don't seem to have a large effect on it, but it's possible there's some. The charterstone I honestly have no idea about.

It'd probably be quickest to bug loftar to post about the specifics. We can't really reverse engineer anything since she doesn't know when the idol actually hit 0. It is worth noting that the idol alone is about 54k LP gained with full change (ed: and 10 CHA/INT), and if she was logged out for about 8 hours and if it hit zero shortly before she logged in, that's a drain of nearly 1000 per hour, at least.'

EDIT IN RESPONSE TO ABOVE EDIT:

Actually, if she gets decent INT and CHA it's not so bad. If I understand the math, and you're talking to a guy who barely passed Calculus, so take it with a grain of salt, having 20 (in each) essentially doubles the authority gained, 30 (in each) triples the authority gained, so on and so forth. Having them mismatched really screws with the numbers. So having her switch to Civilization and equipping herself in gaudy +INT and +CHA gear will help a lot.

Also, for reference, loftar explains it for me here.

[spectacle]

Why not just let the idol disappear, and then found the village anew? That way she can become lawspeaker and invite others to join.

[KoE]

I just spent a while hanging out near my idol and plowing and here's what I gathered:

Authority drains every ~20 minutes. In my case, by 218 points, which is about 654 an hour which is about what I would expect from having Idol + a single Banner. This means crossroads seem to have no upkeep at all.

If she saw a decrease of 300 points, that means it's around 900 an hour (which is actually pretty near what I guessed earlier). About 208 of the 20 minute drain is from the idol, so whatever's left has a drain of 92 per 20 minutes, or ~275 per hour, or ~2200 per day, if I haven't horribly botched my math. I assume that's from the charterstone.

I'll note this is purely experimental, but I think the numbers should be more or less correct.

[BigNoobie]

How does one build a charterstone?

[sabinati]

Ah, no. The charter stone is simply not an authority object anymore; it is connected to your village and can only be placed upon ground with authority, but it has no authority parameters of its own.

The numbers, to be precise, are that the idol itself drains 5000 authority each in-game day, a banner drains 250 and a statue drains 350. The idol gives an authority cap of 250000; a banner adds 13000 to that, and a statue adds 20000. LP now converts to authority on a 1:1 ratio when your character has 10 intelligence and 10 charisma (again, learning bonus is not counted, however).

[KoE]

Huh, I could swear I'd read that but I couldn't find it again. Possibly because I always see it used as one word despite it being two.

Well either the 300 number is off or somebody put up some statues/banners. Crossroads and Charter Stones definitely don't matter to authority.

And a charterstone requires you to be a Lawspeaker/Chieftain to place, requires some paved ground (like 3x3 to 5x5 or something like that) and I believe 200 stones, 20 dreams, and 4 bars of bronze. (Or whatever the ugly orange metal is).

[Cookie]

Okay, yesterday when she logged on there were 0 authority points. When she logged off it was at 17037 authority points. When she logged on again it was at 0 again. This was about 19 rl hours later. If I understand correctly the idol requires 15000 per 24 hours, so this means that something ate up a bunch more points.

And this is assuming that no one else in the village is earning any lp either which is not the case.

Any guesses what the additional authority drain could be? She destroyed the crossroads yesterday since village members could not use it.