Grapejuice quality

[Tacheron]

Ok, I have done some searching and couldn't find an answer.

I'd like to know everything that affects grapejuice quality. I just did a test with 2 seeds of the same quality (q72). I put them in 2 different q winepresses (not sure which q they were, but different). The juice I got from the better one was q59, the juice from the worse one was q57.

So:
Does the q of the winepress matter?
Do any attributes affect the quality of the grapejuice?

Thanks in advance

[Darkren]

Grapes and winepress quality matters, indeed.

Also, I think barrel quality is a contributing factor.

[Lahrmid]

Q59?

You've better invite me to the party you'll be having in a couple of days

[Tacheron]

Grapes and winepress quality matters, indeed.

Also, I think barrel quality is a contributing factor.

I know the barrel is a factor for making wine, I'm talking about the grapejuice, before I put it into the barrels...since you say that the winepress quality matters, that must be what's lowering my grapejuice quality.

[Rhiannon]

Grapes and winepress quality matters, indeed.

Also, I think barrel quality is a contributing factor.

I know the barrel is a factor for making wine, I'm talking about the grapejuice, before I put it into the barrels...since you say that the winepress quality matters, that must be what's lowering my grapejuice quality.

Yes, winepress makes a big diff. So get some nice boards to make it with...try to up your axe and saw Quality to get the most of your best trees, and of course your carpentry as high as you can as well. Make new presses as things increase oveer time as welll to keep your wine on the quality upswing.

[DatOneGuy]

Grapes and winepress quality matters, indeed.

Also, I think barrel quality is a contributing factor.

I know the barrel is a factor for making wine, I'm talking about the grapejuice, before I put it into the barrels...since you say that the winepress quality matters, that must be what's lowering my grapejuice quality.

Yes, winepress makes a big diff. So get some nice boards to make it with...try to up your axe and saw Quality to get the most of your best trees, and of course your carpentry as high as you can as well. Make new presses as things increase oveer time as welll to keep your wine on the quality upswing.

Hmm, nothing else affects it besides these two?

This seems to be one of the few things I can't get even a tentative formula on.

I've been told cooking also affects it but didn't try with quality grapes high enough to matter. I have 2 guys, cooking 11, cooking 38, tried with both using q15 grapes, q16 grapes, q14 grapes as test subjects, they all lowered/raised by the same amount with the different cooking, so it's hard for me to see how it would affect it even as a softcap. The two winepresses however made a big difference, q15->13 (q10~ winepress), q15->q16 (q22.5 winepress).

[Flocke]

if i remember correctly:

q Grape Juice: (average quality of Grapes*5 + q Wine Press) / 6

q Wine: (q Grape Juice + q Wine Barrel) / 2

q Vinegar: (q Wine + q Wine Barrel) / 2


if somebody can confirm that, maybe i add this to the relevant wikia pages!

[Blxz]

if i remember correctly:

q Grape Juice: (average quality of Grapes*5 + q Wine Press) / 6

q Wine: (q Grape Juice + q Wine Barrel) / 2

q Vinegar: (q Wine + q Wine Barrel) / 2


if somebody can confirm that, maybe i add this to the relevant wikia pages!

I can confirm that there are 2 calculations. 1 from grapejuice to wine and another from wine to vinegar. Dunno if your formula are correct or not though. But seems close enough to my experience.

[Calixtus]

Okay from trolling the forums and experience I can see current winepresses are lowering the q of the grapejuice. What i can't find is the formula for q of the winepress.

Is it as simple as qboard + qblock/2 ?

So if q140 board + q60 block would give q100 winepress?

[trondaron]

Okay from trolling the forums and experience I can see current winepresses are lowering the q of the grapejuice. What i can't find is the formula for q of the winepress.
Is it as simple as qboard + qblock/2 ?
So if q140 board + q60 block would give q100 winepress?

http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Quality#From_loftar

For buildable objects, the quality is almost always calculated as such:

* The qualities of items in the individual item types are averaged arithmetically.
* The resulting average qualities of the various types are also averaged arithmetically -- often with some weights on items that should be "obviously" more important (like the iron in iron plows) -- to create the quality of the built object.

So I believe (BoardQ+BlockQ)/2 is correct.