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Re: Mytishi: Under New Management

Postby cauda_draconis » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:31 pm

DatOneGuy wrote:So you don't care if A.D. are racist and start a genocide, but you only care when it happens to Russians, okay there.

No, you understand it wrong.
I dont care even when that becomes with me.

DatOneGuy wrote:As for the speaking Russian, people can adapt, that's not really enough of an excuse, we've had people who don't' speak or read good English.

Excuse for what? Of course they could speak bad russian, that's acceptable. But they dont know russian at all.
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Re: Mytishi: Under New Management

Postby cauda_draconis » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:37 pm

DatOneGuy wrote:The community that you associate yourself with should make no difference.

When community i associate with myself will also associate you with itself - only then you should tell that community whom they should associate with itself, and whom should not.
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby Potjeh » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:39 pm

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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby DatOneGuy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:39 pm

cauda_draconis wrote:
DatOneGuy wrote:So you don't care if A.D. are racist and start a genocide, but you only care when it happens to Russians, okay there.

No, you understand it wrong.
I dont care even when that becomes with me.

DatOneGuy wrote:As for the speaking Russian, people can adapt, that's not really enough of an excuse, we've had people who don't' speak or read good English.

Excuse for what? Of course they could speak bad russian, that's acceptable. But they dont know russian at all.

Not sure I understand that first part at all. As for second part, that's how you learn, as long as people try and help you learn.

cauda_draconis wrote:
DatOneGuy wrote:The community that you associate yourself with should make no difference.

When community i associate with myself will also associate you with itself - only then you should tell that community whom they should associate with itself, and whom should not.

Not sure here though.

We should probably call it quits since google translator seems to getting us just more mixed up than we need to be.
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Re: Mytishi: Under New Management

Postby ewlol » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:40 pm

cauda_draconis wrote:
DatOneGuy wrote:The community that you associate yourself with should make no difference.

When community i associate with myself will also associate you with itself - only then you should tell that community whom they should associate with itself, and whom should not.


what the fuck.
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:43 pm

Due to the amount of response I have to make: I will not be quoting but simply underlining the quote I am responding to.

Burgingham: Oh, you gave Dataslycer and myself a fun time figuring out the correct relations on who you are, who you know etc etc.
Unlike Neptjunoue, I was more concise on who I am. And it's not just us. We are simply the more vocal ones.

DatOneGuy: There's a big difference. If you're sitting on q100 clay you know enough about the game to get your teeth kicked in and come back from it. IF it really looks like a newbie, we usually let them go and buy the spot or something, we've done it before.
This makes me curious. How much of Pandemonium agrees with this?

cauda_draconis Not exactly. For example i use it to label Sodom/Pande only. AD's propaganda said, that 4 world was wiped cause AD have gained significant advantage over Sodom. That's true in the sence that AD get billions lp by using bots, and devs disliked such state of affairs. I highly disregard using bots, and i do not like AD for this stuff, but i'm talking about another thing. "Anal friends of Jorbtar" means, that they have enought infuence on devs to convince them. So, if i will decide, that tobbaco seed bug is overpowered some alliance, that will remain my own opinion, but nice guys from Sodom could put the word in the right ear, and world would be wiped. That's just one abstract example. I could again remember shit about 2 gold bars etc, but i thing everyone are quite tired of this story.
Actually, from leaked information, the curiosity system was already planned during world 3 which was at first very roughly made but still favorable. World 4 was...unfortunate due to the fact that a lack of back up caused world 3 to prematurely end and world 4 to start with very beta game system such as new mining system with absurd LP gain rate, farming quality linked with soil being bugged at the start, and the world wide spread of arksu's scripts. A.D. was one that consistently used these bots but the real problem is that pretty much a large sum of players were using scripts to gain large amount of LP while not being at the keyboard. Had there been a way to stop this, it would not rewind the damage done: widespread deforestation, and a large lead by script users essentially rewarding them for exploiting bots.

The closest I can think of with the "Anal friends of Jorbtar" is the Inner Party which once also had nemesis of Sodom (at least during the Sodom vs Goon era). I myself will not judge the Inner Party as I do not know many of them well with the information I have, nor do I know what is being discussed. The only thing I can say is they comprised of veteran players of all sort. World World Wipe is not a matter taken lightly and I think many agree that unless there is a large change of game system or a huge error occuring (please keep back ups at all cost), there is no need for a wipe. Whether a wipe would be beneficial for one aside or another is moot as everyone loses everything during a wipe. For many though it is a refreshing restart once the game-play becomes stale.

Lilburne: Overall the moral of the story I think is that once again the language barrier is acting as a catalyst to the and turning the natural fear of the unknown present in us all into outright xenophobia (at times by the deliberate action of certain individuals.) As an aside on this note however, the various misuse of 'internetz' terms like 'butthurt' have of late provided me with significant amusement, if the xenophobia could go down at the same time as keeping that. I'd be a happy man.

I do not think it's xenophobic or language barrier that is a main issue as many villages have different cultures and races within their walls. Have racism and xenophobia reigned, it would be very difficult to create order and wars would be a lot more abundant.

...should I run this all through a google translator and send to PM?
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Re: Mytishi: Under New Management

Postby marvi » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:44 pm

cauda_draconis wrote:But anyway, why do you argue with me? With which community do you associate yourself, english or russian? Just honestly please.

Neither. I don't have any relations to most of people who makes russian community. English community doesn't know me and doesn't give a shit about it as well I believe (unlike Ender or Malenkoe_Zlo).

In W3 I lived with my friends at first. Just a small group of russian players. Then I lived in a village originally founded by a relatively big russian community. Though when I joined only 3 of them left. And I'm still playing with them.
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby Radiant_Maelstrom » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:47 pm

I'm going to have to disagree with Patchy's request to move this because really this should be closed. It's s imply pointing fingers at each others and calling each other racism. End bigotry has to start somewhere and from the looks of it, it's not going to be here.
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby Potjeh » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:53 pm

The whole point of his trolling is to get us mods to close the thread so he can reenact this scene from Monty Python.

Not that I care about him getting irrefutable proof of the corruption of Jorb's anal friends, but people seem to be having fun so I'm leaving it open.
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby cauda_draconis » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:55 pm

Guys, that's very fine, but i'm arguing with you literally all the day. Some retards as me, still wants to play the game, not only shitstorming on the forum.

Will answer you tomorrow.
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