String of russian bug raiding?

[Patchouli_Knowledge]

Right now, we are now in a currently vicious cycle of both side using bugs against each others, then accusing each other before trying to find new ones to use on each other and many people are caught in collateral damage as well as intensifying the hatred between the two. I am not accusing anyone or anything of bug using or for the next statement but I believe many of us have forgotten our place in this game as testers and now continue on with this vendetta that lasted up to 4 worlds now. It's pretty much a contest of showing up the other. This is why I am very grateful of doing our best to avoid the politics as our testing decisions would end up being influence by such and focusing less on testing as we do not have to focus on eliminating an opposition. As the current meta-game is pretty much abusing all of the bugs we know, we have been developing research of many of them ourselves to simply find a counter to them or report it so they will not be used against us.

Off Topic: One theory that I would like to see is if we take the opposition of each side (ex: Burgingham, Sabinati, Badich, Portgas, Bell, Ewlol, DatOneGuy, Potjeh) and put them into a game that is more cooperative or less intensive PvP based, much of the animosity would not be taking place or to a much lesser degree.

[Radiant_Maelstrom]

I bug you, you bug me,
we're on abusing spree
with a house jump here,
and a CS and signs to the wall
Let's all have one giant brawl.

Protip: Don't rely on loftar.

[Vigilance]

you bagouse

no u bagouse

yaaaaawn. heard it before

[burgingham]

while koya was in IP he trying to make game better (some of our ideas was interesting for jorb) u can ask him about it btw. but inside situation in IP didnt get ability to realize this ideas. some of them jorb still remember i bet

You know this might work on the russian forums. Here people usually are too educated to fall for this shit. Koya didn't suggest 1 (ONE) useful thing in the IP. He always came up with some very, very weird ideas that suspiciously only helped AD at a certain point of time. At the same time many bug exploits were spotted by you guys that never got reported. I mean seriously you claim you did report them, but Jorb says he never ever got a single pm from you guys (that he liked any of Koyas ideas you just made up btw, they were all shit). That is so cheap I am baffled you think for yourselves such cheap propaganda would word. Even more I can do propganda myself when this is about in game faction battles, but you seriously are destroying everything right now. You did in w4 and you do it now again. This is NOT the way to help the game or make the devs notice something.

I mean Jesus Christ how paranoid are you? Why the fuck do you think the things Sodomites report get fixed? Not because we are some favourite pets (otherwise this cs bug you are raiding us and friends with for days now would have been fixed a long time already and also you guys would have lost at least all your chars because I believe you need punishment in all seriousness and that Loftar has to give up his 0 punishment policy for you). The bugs we report get fixed because we present reasonable arguments that they need fixing.

and what u ? or sodom(more correctly?) did in w3 w4 w5 to makes game better?
nerfsnerfsnerfs? and nothing more?
AD pwnd goons 3x6or7 = add sqrt func in combat system (+ for this but...)
AD get 400%+ fep tables = tables nerf (sodom still have they not bugged but fucking owerpowered hemp(same with our 400%+ tables) and tabacco) (our player get 600+ cooking and 1300+ psy for it)
BhB battle (sodom lost 3 dudes) = RBs and multi Archers nerfes
AD get q1000+ seeds = no more prayer of life
Sodom+Korea+BN used alts in w3 end battle = no reaction
AD used ants (kord ind) = deltas fixed for ua combat (some time later)
Sodom spamm alts and block trying to block siege of kord inds with it = no reaction
AD bot hard in w4 and get full advatage in w4 = wipe + lp system changed without atention at least
AD spamme alts on q90+ sodom soil spot = there is no more dream in nooby room
RUA(as u think) get bashers and hight lvl combat chars with injuraspect = nerf in half 50% + 25% + 12.5% (idk exactly)

See you actually helped the game. You broke mechanics, they got fixed. Now if only you reported any of this yourselves! No, we had to do it for you. Because you always abused it against us. All these things were overpowered: Seedprayer, Einherjer (people were asking for a nerf here for months, maybe years btw), sqrt func made combat soso much better in the way that numbers count more, Ants were used by us first btw so dont flattter yourself too much, Alt spamming was horrible how do you even view such things as legitimate game mechanics. I think this righ there shows best how fucked up your view on this game is.You complain that you cannot grief players anymore with newbie hearthfire spam. Seriously?

So now you abused the shit out of hearthvaults and charterstones. We got it, they need fixing badly. Everyone got it, the devs just don't have time, but are very well aware of the problem. Do you stop? Noooo, you accelerate your speed before it might get fixed. For a few days now I hear of dozens of towns getting raided by this bug. Systematically driving players out of the game. You don't want to fix things, you are mad because of your paranoia filled theory that the devs might favour us and now you want to ruin their game (again why don't they fix this for us then???).

Just get over it that we always kicked your butts in legitimate ways and go back to your Xyson or whatever. Nobody wants or likes you here, because you are destroying the gaming experience for everyone else.

P.S: Still offering you a legitimate shoot out. We set a date, you gather however many soldiers you can get and I do the same. But you know yourself why you won't agree to this.

P.P.S: @Araxle this talk we had some days ago actually made me have some respect for you and Bell at least. You seemed like determined, legitimate raiders of the Nao/Klaue kind. Raiders who do it for the fun, for another kind of gameplay experience and we need good villains. I am very disappointed you now are participating in this very intense abuse of cs jumping after you told me you almost never abused bugs and would like to avoid it altogether. Where is that enthusiasm of beating Pande with legit weapons? Did Diablo use his brainwashing methods on you that we are the wetsern devils?

[Radiant_Maelstrom]

Holy shit, wall of text... What'd Arxale do?

[sabinati]

AD pwnd goons 3x6or7 = add sqrt func in combat system (+ for this but...)

what the fuck is this shit? we lost because we got shot by your fucking archers? it had nothing to do with any sqrt anything.

AD used ants (kord ind) = deltas fixed for ua combat (some time later)
Sodom spamm alts and block trying to block siege of kord inds with it = no reaction

kord ind was a goon city, idiot

[NaoWhut]

to be fair i could probably break into panda legitly..
i just wouldn't be able to get into any of the seperate
enclosures inside be cause of the required ram for
brickwalls. it'd take several days of seige and warfare
with a rather large faction, and many deaths on their
side for me to get anything worthwhile... if i ever got
to it before they carried it off with alts...

would they use a bug to get to my ram? who knows,
but it would deffinitely be possible.. it's just that no
one tries because i'd have to take days attacking a
major village with a skilled group, and having to kill
anyone trying to enter or exit an enclosure i'm
approaching until i'm inside.

I'm not quite after loot though... and most of these
raiders seem to be looking for more stats with their
raids... so the only way to get it before it's hidden on
offline alts is to bug through

[Radiant_Maelstrom]

Why does everyone insist that sieging is the only way to destroy a group?

[ramones]

to be fair i could probably break into panda legitly..

I don't think this is possible while CS bug exists, so you'd have to have 24h ram active + ready to ram in. But if ram would of dried, ofc then there is a way, yea

[Tonkyhonk]

Holy shit, wall of text... What'd Arxale do?

im guessing Arxale in IRC name = Qant on this thread