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Re: good bye gay world

Postby DDDsDD999 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:36 pm

ALWAYS wrote:And I let you break my defense because you couldn't do shit but get punched all goddamn day, all I had to do was jump, and punch. ?
That's pretty damn believable, ind't it?
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Re: good bye gay world

Postby Radiant_Maelstrom » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:21 pm

Let someone break your defense? You either are lying or are strategically inept. Either one doesn't make you look very good at all.
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Re: good bye gay world

Postby NaoWhut » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:45 pm

Radiant_Maelstrom wrote:Let someone break your defense? You either are lying or are strategically inept. Either one doesn't make you look very good at all.



I let people break my defence bar all the time!!

wait...
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Re: good bye gay world

Postby ALWAYS » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:49 pm

So you're going to make a comeback when I have the scales completely tipped towards me, punching without even having to jump, or flex anymore, and taking 110+ damage every 2 seconds? I'd like to see that happen. I didn't even have to worry about defense when I saw the scales were already tipped completely towards me before he had even managed to break my defense. So why even bother with it, when I can keep punching?
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Re: good bye gay world

Postby Potjeh » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:53 pm

ALWAYS wrote:The real truth is that is only going to be effective if I stand still, and do nothing. 200 MC chars will get flat-out killed, knocked out in a single punch with a full attack bar at my strength, and UA. Bloodlust active, they will only feed my attack bar for another hit, and it's quickly down to 1vs2 before they even have the IP, or my defense low enough to land a sting. I've played this game for a while, you know.

Not for long enough apparently. With 1000 UA vs 200 melee you'll come just short of breaking the defence, thanks to the recentish punch nerf. Even with einhered 2000 UA (which you don't have) you'd only do .76 of your max damage. To knock out 400 hp (a fairly easy number for a 200mc character) you'd need to do 1580 max damage with punch which means you'd need 10k str.

The melee chars on the other hand have fairly simple objectives. Keep distance till they get 2 IP with thunder, then 4 simultaneous NPNGs followed by 4 stings and you're dead.
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Re: good bye gay world

Postby NaoWhut » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:57 pm

ALWAYS wrote:So you're going to make a comeback when I have the scales completely tipped towards me, punching without even having to jump, or flex anymore, and taking 110+ damage every 2 seconds? I'd like to see that happen. I didn't even have to worry about defense when I saw the scales were already tipped completely towards me before he had even managed to break my defense. So why even bother with it, when I can keep punching?


if you have no defence i'll stab you for all
you've got, then stab right after again...


if you catch my drift..
(wait.. you're talking about a 3v1? looool
dood... there's so many ways you can die
almost instantly with 3 200MC characters
attacking you... )
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Re: good bye gay world

Postby ALWAYS » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:59 pm

Potjeh wrote:
ALWAYS wrote:The real truth is that is only going to be effective if I stand still, and do nothing. 200 MC chars will get flat-out killed, knocked out in a single punch with a full attack bar at my strength, and UA. Bloodlust active, they will only feed my attack bar for another hit, and it's quickly down to 1vs2 before they even have the IP, or my defense low enough to land a sting. I've played this game for a while, you know.

Not for long enough apparently. With 1000 UA vs 200 melee you'll come just short of breaking the defence, thanks to the recentish punch nerf. Even with einhered 2000 UA (which you don't have) you'd only do .76 of your max damage. To knock out 400 hp (a fairly easy number for a 200mc character) you'd need to do 1580 max damage with punch which means you'd need 10k str.

The melee chars on the other hand have fairly simple objectives. Keep distance till they get 2 IP with thunder, then 4 simultaneous NPNGs followed by 4 stings and you're dead.


Except the problem with that is Sting doesn't do a minimum damage, they'll need enough strength for their stings to not get completely absorbed by armor, and enough strength to ensure their attacks actually kill on the first hits against a high HP fighter. I wouldn't even attempt that with less than 300 MC, a q100+ SS, 400 Strength, and full barb/martial.
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Re: good bye gay world

Postby Potjeh » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:01 pm

You severely underestimate the power of 0 defence sting.
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Re: good bye gay world

Postby ALWAYS » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:01 pm

NaoWhut wrote:
ALWAYS wrote:So you're going to make a comeback when I have the scales completely tipped towards me, punching without even having to jump, or flex anymore, and taking 110+ damage every 2 seconds? I'd like to see that happen. I didn't even have to worry about defense when I saw the scales were already tipped completely towards me before he had even managed to break my defense. So why even bother with it, when I can keep punching?


if you have no defence i'll stab you for all
you've got, then stab right after again...


if you catch my drift..


When attacking a target while the scales are at full tilt against you your skill levels are halved, this guy was "trying" to do exactly that, and the defense I was regaining from each tick was overpowering his sword, and his fists, so that he was either not even breaking my defense, or hitting for 0. There was no reason for me to stop the offensive when the most damage he dealt was 84 on a full attack bar vs. 16 defense.

Mind you I wasn't even trying to kill this guy, I just wanted him to stop chasing and drop agro. I told burgingham before that I wasn't going to, or trying to start shit with his alliance. These people attacked me first, and I just wanted to get out alive and find out why the fuck I was being attacked.
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Re: good bye gay world

Postby NaoWhut » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:03 pm

ALWAYS wrote: I wouldn't even attempt that with less than 300 MC, a q100+ SS, 400 Strength, and full barb/martial.


And NOOOO one walks around with several
palibashers who each have ql 110 SS's and
over 500 MC xD
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