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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby Neptjunoue » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:59 pm

And this, gentleman is why I am not going to touch on the major politics with a ⑨⑨inch pole. People become closed minded, only listen to arguments that favor them, and generally dismiss the other side as guano . Why can't we just sit down and talk this out or be honest that we enjoy the conflict to make things interesting?

Note: This is not pointing towards everyone so if you are going to send hate mails at me, don't let this be a reason.
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby burgingham » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:01 pm

Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:This makes me curious. How much of Pandemonium agrees with this?


Well DoG has sometimes a somewhat drastic way of putting things. Neither are we those evil demons the Russian Alliance tries to make of us, nor are we shiny white knights here to safe the newbies days. Most of us are simply power gamers that also happen to be nice guys. So primarily we are trying to improve ourselves and the town and if that means taking over a q100 clay spot we will do it. However as DoG stated that never goes without at least trying to contact the owner of that spot first and try to find a good solution. I usually make it my policy to offer the owners to join our town in exchange for us using the spot how we deem is best.
We have a general policy of not screwing over the innocents if they have nothing of value to offer us (of value also doesn't mean some cheeseracks, not even 100 cheeseracks. It would be kinda exhausting to elaborate on the greater value of long term alliances and trading relationships with those that happen to have nice things over simply taking it by force. But you know about such merits yourself I guess). So we will never just bash in some palisades because we are bored. Some might disagree with our policy on ressource nodes and such, but that is just how it is (and I don't think we ever actually taken over anything by force). In the end we thrive to be a superpower and will use almost all available options to reach that goal. Still we have a heart and acknowledge others are just trying to play a game too, so we try to coexist peacefully and also acknowledge that (oh god this is going to sound so cheesy) with great power comes greast responsibility :D So we are going to help where we can and make friends where we can simply because it is fun and adds so much to the game
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby DatOneGuy » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:04 pm

No I don't think we have ever taken over a neutral node by force, not that I've ever known of anyhow.
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby burgingham » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:05 pm

Neptjunoue wrote: Why can't we just sit down and talk this out or be honest that we enjoy the conflict to make things interesting?


I am the first to admit that this is what keeps me posting here. I enjoy the political conflict aka drama more than anything in this game.
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby SuchANerd » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:07 pm

burgingham wrote:
Neptjunoue wrote: Why can't we just sit down and talk this out or be honest that we enjoy the conflict to make things interesting?


I am the first to admit that this is what keeps me posting here. I enjoy the political conflict aka drama more than anything in this game.


Refreshing honesty in an ocean of meaningless babble.
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby WarpedWiseMan » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:12 pm

Both sides are inherently evil. Here's why: They both say well we're doing this for the greater good. But whose good?

It all comes down to whether you want the overlords who murder/enslave you to speak English or Russian.
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby Neptjunoue » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:13 pm

burgingham wrote:
Neptjunoue wrote: Why can't we just sit down and talk this out or be honest that we enjoy the conflict to make things interesting?


I am the first to admit that this is what keeps me posting here. I enjoy the political conflict aka drama more than anything in this game.


Then don't hog the popcorn damn it!
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby Jackard » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:13 pm

Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:The closest I can think of with the "Anal friends of Jorbtar" is the Inner Party which once also had nemesis of Sodom (at least during the Sodom vs Goon era). I myself will not judge the Inner Party as I do not know many of them well with the information I have, nor do I know what is being discussed. The only thing I can say is they comprised of veteran players of all sort. World World Wipe is not a matter taken lightly and I think many agree that unless there is a large change of game system or a huge error occuring (please keep back ups at all cost), there is no need for a wipe. Whether a wipe would be beneficial for one aside or another is moot as everyone loses everything during a wipe. For many though it is a refreshing restart once the game-play becomes stale.

The members of Inner Party have never been of a single faction since its inception; its only purpose is highlighting discussion from the general forums since they have become too noisy for the devs to follow regularly.

(Only exception being that devs conducted two private tests of the new learning system in September of last year.)
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby cauda_draconis » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:14 pm

Potjeh wrote:Not that I care about him getting irrefutable proof of the corruption of Jorb's anal friends, but people seem to be having fun so I'm leaving it open.

Really? You will not save oll those poor guys stupid enought, to talk to troll?
You will not close the thread with the shout: "It's all for your own good"?
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Re: ITT we discuss about racism, stereotypes and bagousing

Postby Potjeh » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:15 pm

WarpedWiseMan wrote:Both sides are inherently evil. Here's why: They both say well we're doing this for the greater good. But whose good?

It all comes down to whether you want the overlords who murder/enslave you to speak English or Russian.

Eradicating villages with no casus belli and village claiming over hermit farms aren't quite on the same level of evilness scale.
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