War between the Panda and the NNN

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Re: War between the Panda and the NNN

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:44 pm

Unless you are calculating the first/second derivative of the rate of LP gain with respect to the amount of time for each curiosity passed, or the rate of change of the aim meter with respect to time and to distance, I don't really see what Calculus III has to do with Haven and Hearth (and the 3 dimensional flux chart isn't really that interesting either).

Also, I think I need to place a reminder that as loftar stated, abuses and bug usage need to be reported to loftar before they are used.
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Re: War between the Panda and the NNN

Postby cauda_draconis » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:46 pm

xXGhostxX wrote:Next time you want to throw insults about other intelligence, speak good English so we can understand you. ;)

Я бы тебе и по русски ответил, дурачку, но ты все равно ведь нихуя не поймешь.

Oh yes, you could always use google translate, if your lack of intelligense prevents you from understanding my words.
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Re: War between the Panda and the NNN

Postby Potjeh » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:48 pm

Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:Also, I think I need to place a reminder that as loftar stated, abuses and bug usage need to be reported to loftar before they are used.

The devs have long abandoned that policy via inaction. I reckon the first raid of Winterfell was the breaking point, it was overt abuse of an unreported bug (house door jump) and nothing was done. Now it's basically report if you feel like it.
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Re: War between the Panda and the NNN

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:55 pm

Regardless I will still stick to the policy to the end until this project is officially disbanded.
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Re: War between the Panda and the NNN

Postby cobaltjones » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:04 am

Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:Regardless I will still stick to the policy to the end until this project is officially disbanded.

I don't think you understand.

Reporting a bug before abusing it and NOT reporting a bug and abusing it are literally the exact same thing as this point. There is no developer presence in this game at the moment. Reporting bugs is akin to talking to a wall.
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Re: War between the Panda and the NNN

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:13 am

Personally, bug abusing should be punished regardless but that is not their policy unless it changes. I do not believe that the game will not be abandoned but placed on hiatus. Jorb still is about the forums and I'm fairly certain he has contact with loftar somewhere.

In regards to this hiatus though, most of the old player has went into a hibernation state. Even I have not done as much testing of late there isn't anything new to test. Regardless, we are trying to find anything new from the old which, at times, happen.
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Re: War between the Panda and the NNN

Postby cauda_draconis » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:28 am

cobaltjones wrote:Reporting a bug before abusing it and NOT reporting a bug and abusing it are literally the exact same thing as this point. There is no developer presence in this game at the moment. Reporting bugs is akin to talking to a wall.

untrue.

when russians were bugraided last time, loftar spend few hours with us, trying to understand what bug was used. since it was not reported, he just wasted his time.

next day, when pande was caught using that bug and finally reported it, loftar fixed it that day.

perhaps he put so much attention to stop the rumors "devs are fixing only bugs used on pande" among russian community. anyway, he did all he can, and i, personally, very grateful to him for that.
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Re: War between the Panda and the NNN

Postby Astarisk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:42 am

cauda_draconis wrote:
cobaltjones wrote:Reporting a bug before abusing it and NOT reporting a bug and abusing it are literally the exact same thing as this point. There is no developer presence in this game at the moment. Reporting bugs is akin to talking to a wall.

untrue.

when russians were bugraided last time, loftar spend few hours with us, trying to understand what bug was used. since it was not reported, he just wasted his time.

next day, when pande was caught using that bug and finally reported it, loftar fixed it that day.

perhaps he put so much attention to stop the rumors "devs are fixing only bugs used on pande" among russian community. anyway, he did all he can, and i, personally, very grateful to him for that.



Oh yeah, let us recall that glorious day. The day the russian community crashed the server to save themselves, the day they denied crashing the server. Did they ever report their bug on how to crash the server? I think not, Loftar was left to himself to figure it out.
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Re: War between the Panda and the NNN

Postby cauda_draconis » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:01 am

Astarisk wrote:Oh yeah, let us recall that glorious day. The day the russian community crashed the server to save themselves, the day they denied crashing the server. Did they ever report their bug on how to crash the server? I think not, Loftar was left to himself to figure it out.


"The russian community crushed the server", my ass.
I see, you are making some definite progress. Last time it was like "rua crashed the server" (btw i dont know, is that true or no). Now it's like "russain community crashed the server". What would be next? FSS crushed the server?

And yes, this time i just tried to defend devs, no more. Simple fact you could easily notice, when pain in your ass will fade.
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Re: War between the Panda and the NNN

Postby Astarisk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:10 am

cauda_draconis wrote:
Astarisk wrote:Oh yeah, let us recall that glorious day. The day the russian community crashed the server to save themselves, the day they denied crashing the server. Did they ever report their bug on how to crash the server? I think not, Loftar was left to himself to figure it out.


"The russian community crushed the server", my ass.
I see, you are making some definite progress. Last time it was like "rua crashed the server" (btw i dont know, is that true or no). Now it's like "russain community crashed the server". What would be next? FSS crushed the server?

And yes, this time i just tried to defend devs, no more. Simple fact you could easily notice, when pain in your ass will fade.


I said russian community because it was indeed someone within the russian community. Even though they may call their little group RUA or NNN or whatever the hell they choose, they are still members of this community. (Granted some of them may not be russian) The crash was also indeed caused on purpose (I could even go ahead and bring up the IRC logs of Loftar claiming there was no way the crash was accidental). I even only bothered to mention this piece of information so that the other people could have insight as to what else happened that day. Pande "bug raided" and reported how it was done, the other people crashed the server and never reported it.
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