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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby Sarchi » Mon May 16, 2011 7:40 pm

burgingham wrote:God is living in a different timezone.


God lives on American time because America is a God-fearing Christian nation.

Europe will soon be Islamist.
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby SuchANerd » Mon May 16, 2011 7:43 pm

novaalpha wrote:Jorb and Loftar should ask themselves this question:

Why would people resort to bug abuse when sieging?



People have been using bugs in online games for years. Even when the mecanic of the game in question was perfectly fine. The only reason : some people are selfish assholes that will abuse the system to their advantage no matter what.

Placing the burden on game mecanics to legitimate abuse is rethorical crap imo.
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby NaoWhut » Mon May 16, 2011 7:46 pm

er... or they need to get over the wall while you're
offline because it's impossible to get through when
they're all online, so they use the fastest method
to get over your wall, one that doesn't leave you
vulnerable for a day.
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby marvi » Mon May 16, 2011 7:47 pm

novaalpha wrote:Jorb and Loftar should ask themselves this question:

Why would people resort to bug abuse when sieging?

Maybe it's because current siege mechanics are fucking stupid?


Still, as you can see from the screenshots, WF was pretty vulnerable for sieges since there wasn't need for the longwalling: raiders could break pali, build a ram, build a wall around it using exposed pali sections. Even if they'd feared for a palibasher they could break pali near the brickwall cp (I doubt it was sealed) and build a small brickwall around it. But then WF most likely would be prepared for an attack. And still that's a lot of work. Why not just glitch in if we can, eh?

Or do you think that everyone should be able to break into any village overnight?
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby eol » Mon May 16, 2011 8:01 pm

novaalpha wrote:Jorb and Loftar should ask themselves this question:

Why would people resort to bug abuse when sieging?

Maybe it's because current siege mechanics are fucking stupid?


same reason people resort to bottin to gain lp....am i right?? Image
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby SuchANerd » Mon May 16, 2011 8:15 pm

NaoWhut wrote:er... or they need to get over the wall while you're
offline because it's impossible to get through when
they're all online, so they use the fastest method
to get over your wall, one that doesn't leave you
vulnerable for a day.


If the devs wanted you to be able to get in fast and without leaving you vulnerable for a whole day, then they would just have reduced the waiting time before using the ram.

What you describe as a problem, seems like an intended feature to me.

That feature may be good or bad and you may even be right when pointing that the siege system is too slow, but it still is wrong to use a bug to circumvent it, especially when you consider the cost for those who have been raided (and who have been playing by the rules apparently).
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby cloakblade » Mon May 16, 2011 8:18 pm

This is why I loved being part of Odditown. We never claimed to be good people so no bullshit arguments about whether or not our killing was justified.

Here's a nice quote:
Mort from the Discworld series wrote:'And he goes around killing people?' said Mort. He shook his head. 'There's no justice.'
Death sighed. NO, he said, THERE'S JUST ME.
A.K.A. Suddo
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby novaalpha » Mon May 16, 2011 8:26 pm

Lots of difficult questions that I don't have answers to.

But what I'd really like to say is that raiding should not boil down to camping a ram for 24 hours / stupidity with building walls from fuckways away.
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby jaybo777 » Mon May 16, 2011 8:31 pm

WF members....inbox me info


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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby boshaw » Mon May 16, 2011 8:36 pm

Badich wrote:Zox not playing about month and give character other person, who not live in my village.
Proof plz.

Taar - stolen items
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Palibasher,murderer and theif - underground vault (along northern boarder, pm if you want location)
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Palibasher alt vault (moves between them, teleports via no hf vtele) - Above ground vault (Las Vegas)
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Let me guess, you were at work and it's to hard to keep an eye on what your own union is doing?
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