Kirribilli Raided (Split from D&T thread)

[Tonkyhonk]

4) Kirribilli villager told Pandemonium that someone had built a ram near-by, Pande allies went checking, where they were *welcomed* by armed NNN members.

Wrong one. We were traking them by scents they left by killing one dhelmed guy near Brisbane. It was an ironical accident that they were near Kiribilli, so close to CCCP. Moreover, Vigilance said he've seen us travelling down the river near Kiri. If Kiribilli would betray them, we could just come to the city walls immediately instead of worthless movement.

i only listed the seeming-facts. whether it was accident or not, they were attacked by your armed force, correct?

6) NNN showed up to help Kirribilli leaders and they are hiding in a vault somewhere currently.

Since Panda betrayed them, why not? This prooved they weren't hostile to us or help Pandemonium.

again, this is a list of facts. im not judging right or wrong at the very moment.

UPD (forgot about this one):

1) Kirribilli villager hired NNN to kill a villager for some reason.

Who's villager?

no idea. please ask Sarchi.

[burgingham]

The more significant reasons for the Kiri raid are not really for the public. Just so much that Rav has been an AD ally in previous worlds and now went back to them again, when all remaining AD players at that time were allied, friends, or working together with Urkeval and her group. I know that Headshot for example was making Ravs gear.

Aalex himself proved to be friends with Urkeval after our first guy got killed because of incidents around Kiri and usually NNN was pretty uick to show up when our people were spotted by one of Kiris villagers. I tried to get them to stop working with NNN, but you can see in Sarchis quotes how well that went, same attitude Aalex showed towards me in a personal talk.

They pretended to stay neutral while really being two-faced. At one point Aalex wanted to give us scents to bugraid NNN members. Now they are allied with them, as Rav himself admits in one post. I personally don't need more of a reason to punish them. There is more though and on top there is also bad experiences from the past that others like Vig can tell a little more about.

[Skorm]

The more significant reasons for the Kiri raid are not really for the public. Just so much that Rav has been an AD ally in previous worlds and now went back to them again, when all remaining AD players at that time were allied, friends, or working together with Urkeval and her group. I know that Headshot for example was making Ravs gear.

Aalex himself proved to be friends with Urkeval after our first guy got killed because of incidents around Kiri and usually NNN was pretty uick to show up when our people were spotted by one of Kiris villagers. I tried to get them to stop working with NNN, but you can see in Sarchis quotes how well that went, same attitude Aalex showed towards me in a personal talk.

They pretended to stay neutral while really being two-faced. At one point Aalex wanted to give us scents to bugraid NNN members. Now they are allied with them, as Rav himself admits in one post. I personally don't need more of a reason to punish them. There is more though and on top there is also bad experiences from the past that others like Vig can tell a little more about.

not quite getting it, the raid was because of being allies whit NNN( meaning you will just hunt allies overall) or it was because of being a buch of unlucky betraying Bastards?

[burgingham]

I'd say both.

[YingYang]

I just moved in to kirribilli . I own the plot with a brick wall with no door in the se corner of village. So sad but this is the way of h&h. By the way I'm not panda or rua affiliated and nice f u that somebody plowed on my plot.lol I liked that hehehe lol

[burgingham]

I am very well aware that there were quite some innocents in Kiri and I am sorry for you people. As I wrote earlier I even evac'ed 3 people myself to spare them the raid. Your leaders however you should choose more wisely in the future.

[Hyrion]

Your leaders however you should choose more wisely in the future.

How can you choose leaders wisely without having to read thread after thread of OLD HnH drama and even then, most of the inner drama isn't posted after something bad happens.

Maybe, some of you should warn the others when these bad leaders are recruiting for their "bad lead villages" in the recruitment threads.

[rozn]

Your leaders however you should choose more wisely in the future.

How can you choose leaders wisely without having to read thread after thread of OLD HnH drama and even then, most of the inner drama isn't posted after something bad happens.

Maybe, some of you should warn the others when these bad leaders are recruiting for their "bad lead villages" in the recruitment threads.

[Phizuol]

Maybe, some of you should warn the others when these bad leaders are recruiting for their "bad lead villages" in the recruitment threads.

If your village openly recruits on the forum that's already a warning. I'm sure there's good villages that openly recruit, but you should be wary.

[rozn]

Hmm, Burg isnt it also plausible that the RUA was tracking Vigilance at the time and thats how they found him at Kirribillli. Do you have evidence against that?