WinterfAil Raided

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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby eL_Diablo » Mon May 16, 2011 11:04 am

Some my old friend ask me to post this pics on forum (he have problems with forum access).
some_friend wrote:-1

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some_friend wrote:standart action

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some_friend wrote:standart action

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some_friend wrote:-2

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some_friend wrote:standart action+ a lot of keys from winterfell random raids. some with rus names. some with polish, some with eng.

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some_friend wrote:all u can see has been destroyed

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some_friend wrote:houses too

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some_friend wrote:nice pets

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some_friend wrote:- 3

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some_friend wrote:it was hi q metall production line. build it again
and thx for 92q spirraled bars. it would be good anvill and hammer

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some_friend wrote:hi q ore store


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Potjeh wrote:Whatever happened to punishing people who use exploits without reporting first? There's already Wayneville and Third Emperor as precedents, so I reckon you should just start deleting characters of people who do it.

report it first> and use it fast. We know rules. Ur rules btw.

Koya several times trying tell to Jorb the mine bug and one more bug which also allows to get inside a village. However we didn't get any gold bars or cool capes. Therefore it isn't a serious bug. Just well known game mechanics. Also, you know well Jorb only listen the people who`s opinion is important for him. It's sad they didn't know this bug. Jorb would fix it long times ago.

Also, still get a lot of fun when u guys trying connect raids and rapes in w5 with AD. There is no more fraction with this name. There is no more ingame AD members, just forum watchers.
thx a lot for ur butthurt :lol:

some_friend wrote:Burn in hell bitches!
and don't butthurt so strong when somebody else use "brilliant" skill
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby burgingham » Mon May 16, 2011 11:16 am

You seem to be pretty involved for just a forum watcher. Why do you still insist AD isn't playing? Of course you guys are, you had a faction of 50 or 60 poeple and lots of them are still in HnH. Among them people using this bug to get inside Winterfell.
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby Potjeh » Mon May 16, 2011 11:16 am

If you reported it why didn't Jorb know? I don't know what fairy tales Koya told you, but he never forwarded to the devs any issues you guys sent him, all he was doing in the Inner Party was raging against curiosities and demanding bot police.
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby SpiderJerusalem » Mon May 16, 2011 11:17 am

so Jorb?are you going to fix it?or do we have to build stupid defenses against a bug?
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby sheltem » Mon May 16, 2011 11:30 am

So let me get this straight... so long as you report a bug you are free to exploit it for all it's worth, even if it has been known for months? :o
That sounds like an especially unhealthy policy. Wouldn't it be better to at least forbid using known bugs until they are fixed, so that stupid stuff like this doesn't happen and poison the community?
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby TeckXKnight » Mon May 16, 2011 11:41 am

sheltem wrote:So let me get this straight... so long as you report a bug you are free to exploit it for all it's worth, even if it has been known for months? :o
That sounds like an especially unhealthy policy. Wouldn't it be better to at least forbid using known bugs until they are fixed, so that stupid stuff like this doesn't happen and poison the community?

Everything complicates the situation. If one had an exploit that would bring them a great deal of benefit but know that they'll lose access to it the moment that they report it, wouldn't they exploit it as much as possible before reporting it? It becomes a game of how much you can deny, claiming to think that bugs were features and citing your lack of reporting as evidence of this.
While morally I agree with your stance entirely, it also discourages people from reporting bugs unless they fear they'll be punished for their exploitation or if they suddenly take an altruistic stance.

Every time a bug like this crops up, it's such a nasty affair I can't help but stare at the situation and do my best to learn a meaningful understanding from it.
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby jorb » Mon May 16, 2011 11:46 am

eL_Diablo wrote:Koya several times trying tell to Jorb the mine bug and one more bug which also allows to get inside a village.


I just read through every PM Koya ever sent me, and he never said anything about mines. Koya was on the inner party for some time and had every opportunity in the world to report whatever he wanted to.

However we didn't get any gold bars or cool capes.


Keep blanking out the fact that I tried to compensate them for wiping their characters. The impulse to do so stemmed from giving a shit about what happens to players, admittedly silly of me.

Also, you know well Jorb only listen the people who`s opinion is important for him.


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I realize that being raided like this hurts a lot, but do not overestimate my ability to do anything about it. Notice how every intervention I do undertake accomplishes nothing save to draw me flak.

I will talk to loftar about fixing the bug asap, but I cannot undo what has already been done.
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby Potjeh » Mon May 16, 2011 11:55 am

People will be pissed no matter what you do or don't do, it's just how the masses roll. For example, I'm literally foaming at the mouth cause they're getting away with this.
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby SpiderJerusalem » Mon May 16, 2011 11:59 am

I will talk to loftar about fixing the bug asap, but I cannot undo what has already been done.


thats what I wanted, thx a lot.

I doubt that WF wants any compensation for the raid, they will just get their revenge and take even more than what was stolen :)
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Re: WinterfAil Raided

Postby Juanito » Mon May 16, 2011 12:09 pm

I knew we would get raider like this even tho i was expecting a fair rad. Anyways congratulations, but this war is far from over
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