String of russian bug raiding?

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Re: String of russian bug raiding?

Postby eL_Diablo » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:19 am

ramones wrote:f we're talking about fairness, as I asked already in this thread, what did you/russian players in allience do this map, w4, w3 to make game better and more fair, besides abusing bugs? Leave it aside if sodom used them, its a question for you not to compare yourself to old sodom or todays Pandemonium.

How many bugs did you report after/before you used them? LP exploits? Dupes? Anything else?


ramones u thinking that u know a lot but as situation show u a wrong here.
i have no ideas about what dupes bugs u a talking (if this now w3 dupe bug)
yes we opend some lp exploit in w5 start and trying to speak about devs politic with jorb after server crash (999999999999q bread) and shit happends with game but jorb wants to know only exploit way and nothing more so that is one reason of nowdays shit

while koya was in IP he trying to make game better (some of our ideas was interesting for jorb) u can ask him about it btw. but inside situation in IP didnt get ability to realize this ideas. some of them jorb still remember i bet

and what u ? or sodom(more correctly?) did in w3 w4 w5 to makes game better?
nerfsnerfsnerfs? and nothing more?
AD pwnd goons 3x6or7 = add sqrt func in combat system (+ for this but...)
AD get 400%+ fep tables = tables nerf (sodom still have they not bugged but fucking owerpowered hemp(same with our 400%+ tables) and tabacco) (our player get 600+ cooking and 1300+ psy for it)
BhB battle (sodom lost 3 dudes) = RBs and multi Archers nerfes
AD get q1000+ seeds = no more prayer of life
Sodom+Korea+BN used alts in w3 end battle = no reaction
AD used ants (kord ind) = deltas fixed for ua combat (some time later)
Sodom spamm alts and block trying to block siege of kord inds with it = no reaction
AD bot hard in w4 and get full advatage in w4 = wipe + lp system changed without atention at least
AD spamme alts on q90+ sodom soil spot = there is no more dream in nooby room
RUA(as u think) get bashers and hight lvl combat chars with injuraspect = nerf in half 50% + 25% + 12.5% (idk exactly)

and this is not all list.

some good fixes
-steel making fix
-gold and bricks pavig (LOL)

i didnt want tell u something now just show some hronology. dudes who have brains and thinking ability will draw the conclusions by themselfs
thats all/ thx/ resume tomorrow

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Re: String of russian bug raiding?

Postby eL_Diablo » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:20 am

boshaw wrote:
eL_Diablo wrote:all u thinking that we just trying ruin the game (its a stereotip that u have for some reasons) but no one from u never trying to unerstand true reason of it


Spamming bugs on random villages all over the map to the point of making some people quit is in fact ruining the game and if you can't see this then you sir are retarded.

why somebody must cares about player base if devs dont do it and this is fucking alpha?

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Re: String of russian bug raiding?

Postby boshaw » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:23 am

yes you're right... fuck the player base lets just bug into everyones towns and make them quit till it's just you left :) then we can play in peace.
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Re: String of russian bug raiding?

Postby ramones » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:32 am

You answered everything but what I asked you, and specificly what I asked you not to. You know I was Angkor in w3 and have no connection to Sodom except I traded with them except with you cause they were cheaper (go figure, and you were our ally :D). Neither was I in "Sodom" in w4, we were still Angkor.

Don't talk abuot devs flavouring Sodom, old Sodom or IP players, whatever, its not debate to have here. All I asked you was what things did you report. Clearly jorb confirmed that Koya didn't report single thing to him, that is why I ask you. And please, don't start again what sodom did or didn't do, I just want your answer about how did you try to improve game.

PS: Koya's IP suggestions as I heard wasn't so much appritiated as you sounded for off the record.
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Re: String of russian bug raiding?

Postby DatOneGuy » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:01 am

Diablo, first off you need to keep your shit together, you mixed together your reasons why you are 'good for the game' with the reasons why you are 'good as a faction' and are retarded for doing so and thinking they mix.

So let's really think about it, most of Koya's ideas were terrible.

He pretty much directly suggested separate FEP bars :\/

In any case, as for what Sodom/Pande has done, hard to say, what has anyone really done. Ideas make it in on a whim, so thinking that some idea is good or will be accepted isn't always right, and even when you really think it is, and it indeed is, and the devs even say it is, who knows if it'll happen \o/

Now, mostly what we've done, what we've always done from what I understand (meaning before I joined even) is play to high qualities, learn enough combat wise to protect ourselves and our friends (hopefully without bugs interfering), find bugs, and report them. There are more bugs we find and report than there are that we find, report, then (ab)use I'd say. These things aren't things exactly that only we do though, so do others, many others I assume, and for sure at least everyone in IP looks for and reports bugs they find. The biggest problem here was people who were abusing and not reporting, which we've seen happen a bit, and people clearly breaking the spirit of the idea (i.e. Walljump via Minehole). I'm sure someone like burgingham could go further into it, as he's been around longer and does a lot more, but testing anything that might come along and giving feedback to ideas are some typical things that happen.

So now I'll break apart your list anyway.

AD pwnd goons 3x6or7 = add sqrt func in combat system (+ for this but...)
AD get 400%+ fep tables = tables nerf (sodom still have they not bugged but fucking owerpowered hemp(same with our 400%+ tables) and tabacco) (our player get 600+ cooking and 1300+ psy for it)
BhB battle (sodom lost 3 dudes) = RBs and multi Archers nerfes
AD get q1000+ seeds = no more prayer of life
Sodom+Korea+BN used alts in w3 end battle = no reaction
AD used ants (kord ind) = deltas fixed for ua combat (some time later)
Sodom spamm alts and block trying to block siege of kord inds with it = no reaction
AD bot hard in w4 and get full advatage in w4 = wipe + lp system changed without atention at least
AD spamme alts on q90+ sodom soil spot = there is no more dream in nooby room
RUA(as u think) get bashers and hight lvl combat chars with injuraspect = nerf in half 50% + 25% + 12.5% (idk exactly)

The quantity being better than quality shouldn't even be seen as advancement, it went way too far and people with 1/3 ~1/4th of the stats can totally beat someone else just by outnumbering them 2~3:1. 'Tis ridiculous :\/
The 400%+ FEP tables, we had as well, we were bitching for it to be nerfed, and AD was NOT (as you imply) the only reason it was nerfed, FAR from it. burg had to tell jorb a lot that they were broken, they didn't see it beacuse they weren't messing around with the highest Q gold/silver like we were.
Hemp we reported since beginning of world, so did BN several times. Tobacco as well. Mr.Derp.

After BHB Rbows shouldn't have been nerfed, it might have been a last minute thing, but people were already then saying that Rbows should be changed not nerfed, they should have some penetration (1~5%) and less damage (around what it is now 400)
AD getting q1000+ seeds again wasn't the breaking point as you weren't the only ones, we were saying it was abusable as fuck since it was done, and they knew it needed to be changed, all that happened there was someone finally abusing it so the devs couldn't be lazy and had to fix it right then :\/
No idea what you mean about the alt thing.
AD using ants? Weren't the first ones there buddy. Nor the last. Deltas were fixed in a brief combat change, and several brief combat changes have been done, never fully as we thought htey would be, never really fully working for balance.
No idea wtf kord ind is, or spam alts, no idea.
AD botting hard, sorry bro but it's just that you guys are fucking retarded with botting. Every bot idea you had you took from us in W3, we were botting (some of us) since W3, we were just never retards like you guys who couldn't even raise a character.
No idea on the alt spam there, dream, bread, and clothes shouldn't be there in the first place, been bitched about many times.
Einherjaraspekt wasn't nerfed 'because' of these RUA guys or whatever, Einherjaraspekt was nerfed because as everyone (except me) has been saying since W3, it is fucking OP as fuck.


Good day sir, enjoy making more stupid lists and making people think that AD/RUA/whatever you want to call your groups these days are responsible for anything good happening, at all.
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Re: String of russian bug raiding?

Postby ewlol » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:03 am

and what u ? or sodom(more correctly?) did in w3 w4 w5 to makes game better?
nerfsnerfsnerfs? and nothing more?

AD pwnd goons 3x6or7 = add sqrt func in combat system (+ for this but...)
coincidence
AD get 400%+ fep tables = tables nerf (sodom still have they not bugged but fucking owerpowered hemp(same with our 400%+ tables) and tabacco) (our player get 600+ cooking and 1300+ psy for it)
we also had those ql tables and i do remember us talking about how OP they were. you know all superpowers of the game lost HQ tables, not just AD
BhB battle (sodom lost 3 dudes) = RBs and multi Archers nerfes
iirc we accepted our losses because it was a fair fight 100%. both sides lost members. we didn't complain to devs, and it was long known RB were mega OP
AD get q1000+ seeds = no more prayer of life
q1000 seeds are major overpowered. you know why? sodom raising crop ql since day 1 not possible to reach that ql except carrots
Sodom+Korea+BN used alts in w3 end battle = no reaction
4500 base str chars are not alts. none of the chars in that last battle was an alt except our brickbasher Thor
AD used ants (kord ind) = deltas fixed for ua combat (some time later)
this is long shot trying to connect that. it wasn't just you who did it. others did it too, incl us.
Sodom spamm alts and block trying to block siege of kord inds with it = no reaction
wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong
AD bot hard in w4 and get full advatage in w4 = wipe + lp system changed without atention at least
this is only fair. also add AD reincarnation bug many places
AD spamme alts on q90+ sodom soil spot = there is no more dream in nooby room
dont even know what the problem is here. jorb did nothing to help us in this situation. actually alt spam saw nerfed most because of resource hunting by spawning.
RUA(as u think) get bashers and hight lvl combat chars with injuraspect = nerf in half 50% + 25% + 12.5% (idk exactly)
we also got a brickbasher and 1300 UA chars in W3 with einher. we lost this ability too

stop acting like you have been picked upon. everytime dev nerf something, we get nerfed too. you are not a fucking picked upon victim.
when RBs were nerfed, we also got RB nerf.
when einher nerfed, we also got nerf.
we used all of these things and i think we can all agree they are OP. (or were in W3)

these made the game better in the long run. nerfing RBs were an act of balancing combat in W3. no longer were they mega-op but now they were fair.
RBs only suck this world bcuz armor is powerful at q100s and rbs cannot get high with farming nerf.
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Re: String of russian bug raiding?

Postby painhertz » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:36 am

So why doesn't someone use this same bug to raid the Russians? God knows, they must be asleep at night because they can't afford electric light. LMFAO
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Re: String of russian bug raiding?

Postby Tonkyhonk » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:43 am

painhertz wrote:So why doesn't someone use this same bug to raid the Russians? God knows, they must be asleep at night because they can't afford electric light. LMFAO

news for you! they dont sleep and they crash server to defend from bugraids!
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Re: String of russian bug raiding?

Postby DatOneGuy » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:20 am

painhertz wrote:So why doesn't someone use this same bug to raid the Russians? God knows, they must be asleep at night because they can't afford electric light. LMFAO

1)We did, they crashed the server.
2)They have like 10+ vaults, you'd have to bug into all of them at once, it takes time to do.
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Re: String of russian bug raiding?

Postby rye130 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:40 am

RUA would get much more loving if they did some legit raids without bugs. Legit raids where they don't outnumber the players like 40 to 1 and its not some noob camp. If you guys weren't always such wimps I'd honestly have a lot more respect for you.
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