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Re: Lots Of Hebalist's Tables Needed Is It Possible?

Postby Awyn » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:23 pm

Guys ignore red. I think he hit his head on something pointy and sharp.

He wants a 10.000 tiled silkwarm with 2500 tables and 5000 cupboards which will take him 8000 logs. All in about a week.
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Re: Lots Of Hebalist's Tables Needed Is It Possible?

Postby sabinati » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:24 pm

Potjeh wrote:Anyone got some numbers on how much labour it'd take to operate this? I'm guessing half a dozen people working on silk 24/7.


well i'd need to time the various operations like getting a mulberry leaf, boiling a cocoon, spinning a thread, weaving a cloth, etc. not to mention all the inventory management and walking.

if you can pull 1 leaf per second, and i think it might actually take more than one second, it's over 40 man-hours of picking leaves. not even counting taking them from tree to cupboard.
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Re: Lots Of Hebalist's Tables Needed Is It Possible?

Postby Sevenless » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:29 pm

40 man hours is doable, IF you had people willing to put in say an hour a day. ~6 people to do it that way. Also forgetting you can multi client alts for leave picking to make it faster. I think you can manage 2-3 fairly easily. Just have them fill up in rotation and spend your time depositing leaves while they auto pick.
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Re: Lots Of Hebalist's Tables Needed Is It Possible?

Postby sabinati » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:47 pm

6 people an hour a day? that's 6 man-hours. i guess if you're only doing one run a week that works but i'd assume you'd be running at max efficiency, otherwise why build all that infrastructure if it's going to sit idle? for max efficiency you'd need to be operating all phases all the time. new eggs go on the table every 24 hours at minimum. so you'd need 40 man-hours of leaf picking per day (if you get 1 leaf in 1 second).
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Re: Lots Of Hebalist's Tables Needed Is It Possible?

Postby Awyn » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:49 pm

Sabinati like I said ignore him. I think something mentally happend to him. He got crazy today.
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Re: Lots Of Hebalist's Tables Needed Is It Possible?

Postby Saphireking65 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:03 pm

Seriously OP, you don't need q130 for this operation. I am assuming you aren't part of a major village and don't have q130 leaves so why get tables that high? I don't think anyone has them that high yet. If you really want 2.5k tables go for q90, they are much more common and much cheaper.
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Re: Lots Of Hebalist's Tables Needed Is It Possible?

Postby DatOneGuy » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:08 pm

Honestly he should be aiming for q50-70.

I'd buy the fuck out of some mass q50+ silk, the tables are shit easy to make for most villages and finding a mulberry seed that Q isn't a problem.

The only problem I see with OPs whole situation here is the tree to cupboard problem, you have to go through the minehole pretty much no matter what, or a CR. Now, you could set it p so that mineholes are on the opposite side of cupboards from their refill points but w/e man.

Leaves are indeed around once a second but with several alts doing it at once even a single person can manage decently. 56 seconds per alt so that means that if he's doing 2 characters one needs to be back in 56 seconds to start picking while other goes, with drop bots it's doable, but if we're talking 0 bots here or little scripts, then no, he'll lose all his time just on the leaves, and some.

Even if you counted 12 people you wouldn't manage it easily, leaves alone would rape time considering the sheer quantity, and then you have to consider the worst part: Cauldrons.
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Re: Lots Of Hebalist's Tables Needed Is It Possible?

Postby Potjeh » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:41 pm

Yeah, it's like 15 seconds per cocoon, right?
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Re: Lots Of Hebalist's Tables Needed Is It Possible?

Postby Saphireking65 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:12 pm

sounds about right. 28 cocoons per inventory, that's 7 minutes per. then making the threads, stashing them before getting another 28 would be another few minutes. Overall it would take 83 hours to unravel the cocoons alone with that many tables, not counting making the threads and cloth.
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Re: Lots Of Hebalist's Tables Needed Is It Possible?

Postby Potjeh » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:21 pm

More feasibility studies.

Let's say that a q130 herb table costs one gold nugget. Right now 130 is a damn good table, so I'd say it's not that unreasonable.

Now, for 2.5k tables you'd need 250 bars of gold. Let's say you can get 20 bars out of an average mine. That means you'd have to find and mine out 12.5 gold mines to buy all them tables. I'd hazard a guess that this is roughly 1/4 to 1/2 of all the gold in the world.
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