by borka » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:34 pm 
			
			those 4 shown sure aren't with Apoc
Xcom - with Firewall enabled in Windows and Router - some BrowserAddons like NoScript, ABE - plugins ask before activating etc and taking care of what you do and where you go you can make it without anti virus scanner
personally i use Avira free and Malwarebytes Anti Exploit Free (which you have to disable for Java in free version), FF with certain AddOns  and regularly scans with a Linux Livesystem from USB boot that has 4 scan engines running - besides having an extra machine for doing computer forensic stuff that allows mme to check all others over Lan.
On the other hand the last active virus i had was in 1998 from a known PC components manufacturers new years greeting (HappySka)  - while i constantly grab loads of trojans, worms and virii from others machines...
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Java 8 - manually downloads - good to check for actual versions url here:
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40331Remember what the dormouse said: Feed your head Feed your head