Lady Goo/Dis/Ravian ( Dis provides no justice. )

[painhertz]

Still no justice and guy I don't know "Qant" adding nothing to the conversation. Moving right along....

[Qant]

I'd be happy with "any" implementation of justice but being as how I didn't come up with the concept of the Peace Grid, it's rules or anything about it it's not for me to say.

And you are clearly lying there, because you was offered help which you refused, since the only thing which will satisfy you is the "heads" of those responsible. Anything else does not constitutes as "justice" for you. And that is exactly the reason I asked you my question. Which still stands by the way.

*long rant about his history this world*

You see, the thing is your story is full of bias and false assumptions. Especially those parts when you claim that you didn't do anything to anyone. Probably, you sincerely believe that you didn't really offend anyone in Dis beside moments you mentioned, but, as was seen from numerous discussions concerning your personality, your views on what is and what is not offensive usually differs from others. For example, I believe this is the first time we are talking to each and other, and yet you starting it with saying of "You are full of shit". My point is that despite of the fact that you "spent the better part of two months not bothering anyone" you still had spent about 8 months prior badmouthing various people living in Dis, in person and in general. Usually for little to no reason at all. Having said all that, it still does not entirely excuses (from my point of view) raiding of your village, but you pretending that you should be treated no different from any other guy living there is also quite farfetched.

Also? We don't owe you anything. Nor to anyone else for that matter.

[painhertz]

I'd be happy with "any" implementation of justice but being as how I didn't come up with the concept of the Peace Grid, it's rules or anything about it it's not for me to say.

And you are clearly lying there, because you was offered help which you refused, since the only thing which will satisfy you is the "heads" of those responsible. Anything else does not constitutes as "justice" for you. And that is exactly the reason I asked you my question. Which still stands by the way.

*long rant about his history this world*

You see, the thing is your story is full of bias and false assumptions. Especially those parts when you claim that you didn't do anything to anyone. Probably, you sincerely believe that you didn't really offend anyone in Dis beside moments you mentioned, but, as was seen from numerous discussions concerning your personality, your views on what is and what is not offensive usually differs from others. For example, I believe this is the first time we are talking to each and other, and yet you starting it with saying of "You are full of shit". My point is that despite of the fact that you "spent the better part of two months not bothering anyone" you still had spent about 8 months prior badmouthing various people living in Dis, in person and in general. Usually for little to no reason at all. Having said all that, it still does not entirely excuses (from my point of view) raiding of your village, but you pretending that you should be treated no different from any other guy living there is also quite farfetched.

Also? We don't owe you anything. Nor to anyone else for that matter.

Quote #1 negative, I was told that if I "Apologized to...Coles? I guess?" that I would be provided with some form of help and promises of being left alone? There are two problems with this.....

#1 The main culprits who destroyed my town "aren't" a part of Dis and as such whether they had "reason" to do so doesn't come into the discussion about whether they should be punished or not for their actions. Also? They not being Dis members I fail to see what any apologies to them would have to do with whether or not I receive justice for my town being destroyed in the Peace Grid which is "supposedly" policed by Dis and it's members. Again, let's not forget that some percentage of the destruction of my town was done by Jordan Coles by his own admission who is a member of Dis and the LAST person who should be going around the Peace Grid wrecking people's shit. As I said when I DID answer your question, he should be exiled from Dis for causing all of this headache for Lady Goo, the faction leader and for going counter to the VERY PURPOSE of the supposed PEACE Zone. As is? Nothing will happen to him or his characters, AT ALL, because in reality you people might talk a good game about having a "Peace Grid" and giving justice to any wronged members but in reality you are a bunch of fucking Nazi's and the "Peace Grid" is Dachau.

#2 I dunno what justice there CAN be but death and or rebuilding my town, which I assure you they would refuse and in that case, wouldn't Dis warring them and/or trying to catch the culprits off hearth and killed them be the only other option? I know that speaking for myself personally, had "I" destroyed a town in the Peace Grid and you told me to rebuild it? I'd laugh my fucking ass off both in real life and in the forums and tell you to come and kill me, then laugh SOME MORE! Basically? In THIS game the only justice is death as has been supposedly perpetrated by Valten, Ravian etc etc etc upon MYSELF for such heinous crimes as "defending myself" and " wanting to be left the fuck along".

#3 or the number I didn't mention. "you still had spent about 8 months prior badmouthing various people living in Dis, in person and in general. Usually for little to no reason at all."

Unlike myself, you can provide no proof of this because it's a complete fucking fabrication. With the exception of the "explained 6 times on these forums by myself" run in with Ravian, and "my defending myself from Jordan Coles who built his name on starting shit with Painhertz" I've not bothered Dis or any of it's members ever in the history of Earth, Sol System, Milky Way. other then lady Goo, Jordan Coles and Ravian... (and I guess now, you?) I DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN DIS.


You know Qant (How do you pronounce that?) I don't know you and as far as I know, you've had no part in ANY of these doings but apparently Goo thinks you make a good argument and although you are completely wrong, I like you.


My point is that despite of the fact that you "spent the better part of two months not bothering anyone" you still had spent about 8 months prior badmouthing various people living in Dis, in person and in general. Usually for little to no reason at all."

Even were that true? And it's not..... It's still not grounds for PHP/Mirror Lake and/or Jordan coles to destroy my town in the PEACE Zone. I'm truly starting to wonder if you guys understand the concept of the word "peace" and this is coming from an American, one of the least peaceful cultures in the history of Humanity.

[Eemerald]

You have my support painhertz, as always, you know that. <3

[Radiant_Maelstrom]

Painhertz is being unnervingly polite about this. Too bad it doesn't seem to change the situation. So what does it take for Painhertz to get a pardon and be left alone?

[maze]

i guess a retired vet feels no shame.

since when was he a vet?
the only worlds that count are like w2, w3
and w6. (what's not vet's.)

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~ I DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN DIS.

You know Qant (How do you pronounce that?) I don't know you and as far as I know, you've had no part in ANY of these doings but apparently Goo thinks you make a good argument and although you are completely wrong, I like you.
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Even were that true? And it's not..... It's still not grounds for PHP/Mirror Lake and/or Jordan coles to destroy my town in the PEACE Zone. I'm truly starting to wonder if you guys understand the concept of the word "peace" and this is coming from an American, one of the least peaceful cultures in the history of Humanity.

Qant, leader of DIS w6
X member of AD w4
Currently his word is law with in DIS.

Now you know a bit about him.

Now go remake your augment based off of what ladygoo posted.

Ainran and Dis alliance are declaring this SG as the zone which will be protected by them. People living there will not have to be afraid of their raiders and expect help in bringing justice. Also, in the nearest future we're going to build a new trading centre. First one since W3.

http://algeralith.info/HavenMap/?x=57.2 ... .18&zoom=7]

What are we going to do in case someone will leave scents?
Depends on what kind of scents they are, whether we were asked to track. We will not track random scents in this area if we are not asked to. In case of vandalism and thievery scents we'll try to contact criminals and reinforce them to pay compensation. If it won't succeed the village where the criminal is will be destroyed. Murder scents will mean death penalty and village destruction.

How can we be sure the area won't be used as a hunting field for raiders?
As everyone are aware Dis and Ainran do not really care of their image as 'good guys'. The project is not to make us look in this way. Also, we do not need to lie to people and gather them in 1 place to kill. Pretty much doing it really well without it So this project is pretty much a sincere wish to try something new. We're quite bored to be honest. However, there are probabilities of other factions trying to raid the SG. We cannot guarantee you won't be attacked by them. But, you will be able to contact our representatives in case of sieges or chases. So they'll do a rescue operation right after they were informed you're in a trouble.

- There will be created a Skype conference for village representatives in the area + our guardians. So you'll be able to contact them straight away (PM me your Skype);
- Please, do not make us gather a big group if raiders already left your village. Rescue group is to be gathered only when attackers are inside of your village/ in the process of siege/ chasing you. You'll need to provide us all the information (coordinates/ number of the people attacking/ hearth secrets and etc.);
- In case you need someone track scents for you it is required to post in this topic. Please, provide screenshots of the place where scents were left and coordinate. We will do everything possible to help you.

Will we have problems with resources?
There might be lack of natural resources in the area once the population of the area will grow up. We cannot help much with this except for starting trading some natural resources to the people. Some observations:
Generally, I grow q 90 trees on q 30 soil and q 73 water, q 130 + herbalist table and q 90 pots. < - Those things are affordable for hardly anyone in quite cheap prices. 1 barrel of water will be enough to grow up 100 trees even on low q soil. Trees are basically the basement of crafts, starting from curiosities ending by cheese trays. Once the project will be established, there is a huge possibility of allowing people using our q 52 well for their baking goods.
HQ clay for kilns is one more problem. We will try to supply folks by q 60+ clay. If you'll be able to buy q 50 bricks, for moderate payment, they'll be burned in our kilns.
As for gatherable resources, in case of over population of the SG, obviously, you will need to be in other SG. We adwise using special forager/hunter alts in order preventing your main characters getting killed. Also, use alts for crafting bricks.

I ask everyone who is living in the SG contact me and send their skype. (Last edited by LadyGoo on Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:00 am, edited 1 time in total.)

[Tonkyhonk]

i guess a retired vet feels no shame.

since when was he a vet?
the only worlds that count are like w2, w3
and w6. (what's not vet's.)

check out what "veteran" means in english, maze.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/veteran

[maze]

i guess a retired vet feels no shame.

since when was he a vet?
the only worlds that count are like w2, w3
and w6. (what's not vet's.)

check out what "veteran" means in english, maze.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/veteran

yeah I'm saying he has none...

[painhertz]

She's talking about real life, not the game. None of which has anything to do with the current topic. So Qant is the "really real" leader of Dis, great, never heard of him. maybe he has less of a soft heart than Goo and can get his people under control?

[maze]

She's talking about real life, not the game. None of which has anything to do with the current topic. So Qant is the "really real" leader of Dis, great, never heard of him. maybe he has less of a soft heart than Goo and can get his people under control?

Sorry cant help you there, I didn't know Qant back in W4. I left the AD alliance back in w3.