Ainran still burning - PV clean up crew cleans PV

[Fenix025]

Just a few things Ainran said about Dis.


DIS.

1. 100% of the time running around in groups of 9-20. They will not attack you unless they have 2-3 times your number, Also they are highly uncoordinated ALay says use vent but, Vent is a fucking piece of shit, they only scream russian all day. so all american players they have get fucked and dont know what the fuck is going on!.

2. They will place rams. 100% of the time they will bug ram and use wall jumps because they are bad, just bad. No point in patroling your walls, kuz if they cant get in legit, they will brute force a Hf inside your town and summon fuckloads of russians on ur shit.

3. They will camp your walls, we killed their best ranger Ravian, but he will be back soon, (Full trad). If you see one of them outside get everyone together and fuck their shit up, EASY KILLS.

Alay-ladygoo has about 6-10 alts of 400ua 200agi pretty much she BOTS them all day (NO LIFE BITCH!)
Aalex like 1300ua 600agi. Ravian 500ua 400mm 300agi. well im not going to go threw them all to many to count! Expect the ZERG!

Alay-Ladygoo- Claims to be pvp godess, but got rocked by oppkncoks VS, very bad fucking worthless player dont know shit about combat, Thinks she is the best player in the game. We shale prove her wrong.
Aalex- very bad cant even run away for his life, dies almost everyday, if u chase him expect some easy loots.
Ravian- Bad at almost everything, cant boat worth a fuck.
Bell-Halloween- By far the best player in dis.
Jordan coles(NOT CLARK)- piece of shit player thinks he is amazing in combat, but really not at all.
Cooldev- fucking spy man!
Not going to talk about the rest! Who gives a fuck! They all suck fucking dicks! Bots Bots Bots is all they can do!

Moral of the store is dont be afraid of them. They will zerg u with shit players but just keep ur head up and run true like the bosses we are.
Now get out there and Hit some niggas moving.

What about Airbase? That's not fair...

[_Gunnar]

Oh wow, I was wondering when this would happen...

(catches up on h&h recent events, been away for a couple months now)

[GrapefruitV]

Then you must think that "lying" is not a natural part of H&H. But, let me ask you this: where is the rule against lying? In a game where we can raid/kill/destroy the work of other people, why should we draw the line at "lying"? Other Sandbox games, such as EVE, accept lying, betrayal and scams as a natural part of the game.

The loss of character of villages does indeed take more effort to rebuild in this game, but that is a major point why there is "permadeath" in the game to begin with.

I know lies is a natural part of life in any levels, including videogames
but this is not about written laws, this is about ethics, and the fact this is natural doesnt mean this is good
you're killing, raiding and destroying inside of the game, only pixels, but you can not lie only inside of the game
any lies about anything are real life matter

[bmjclark]

the reason for the conflict is that wes litterally could not kill anyone

Boredom?

were allies with everyone... even Winterfell

Poor excuse. We were allies with WF at the same rate as you were. None of our actual allies called WF to come and help and have WF members living with them. And none of the villages we are allied would do it lol.
If you're referring to Jiochan's awesome tracking skills, Marveltown is purely hated by WF and was raided by them if you do not know.

Even when LadyGoo told Dis to not attack members of Purgatario without a reason, Ravian knowingly chased them with the intent to kill

Tracking scents.

We appeared, only planning to kill Ravian and leave

So you'd expect me to stay calm and watch you guys killing the people who are the real ones who deserve to be friends with? Did you really expect me to eat this?

I wonder why you're not saying about our help when Gomorrah was raided? Just in comparison with it, and everything which was done during the alliance, your excuses does not worth a thing. As Kaios said, everything could be figured out. Literally, Valten was pushing himself away and didn't want to communicate, making the situation worse and worse.

1) How bout frustration at the fact that you kept putting Winterfell allies (even if they were ex allies) under your protection. Persi, that guy from wild west. Not to mention you put persi under your protection 1 day after he raided in the peace grid. How bout that peace grid justice dis?

2) Answered in 1, and again, the whole racezor being friends with dodoeclone who was raiding with winterfell and tried to get info about m world from us for him. Though i assume you're just going to write that off as a lie rather then try to deal with it.

3) Ravian has at least twice now blatantly ignored us when we asked him to not raid / attack friends of ours. You say the reason for him trying to kill purg was scents, but really, should i have killed mirror lake when i found scents to them pretending to be php? No, because they were friends of ravian and alex, and allies of dis, so i obviously let the matter drop, like a sensible person, who wanted to maintain non-heated relationships with his allies.

4) My will to talk things over dropped as soon as ravian wouldn't even stop attacking our friends when asked to. I was ready to start killing him a month ago, and frankly am a little surprised it took so long.

If i find the chat logs of ravian saying that he doesn't care he's chasing our friends, i'll post um right here. I can't remember when it happened and getting pretty lazy looking through these logs. I honestly don't care enough to look back and find the ones where we asked ravian not to kill painhertz and he did it anyways, that was months ago though. I've wanted to kill ravian since he blatantly said he knows purg is our friends he just doesn't care and is going to kill them anyways, and i also at that moment stopped caring so much about our alliance with dis as a whole.


[20:10:23] Alay: If you see Purgatorio outside of their village, You are free to kill or not to kill. Like any other nabs in the world.
We will not attack their village specially untill they will cross the certain line.

You specifically giving permissions to everyone to kill purg for no reason outside of their village.

Next came the alliance with persi's village. He raided in the peace grid, then contacted us for an alliance, despite knowing he'd raided in the peace grid, you and qant decided to accept his alliance. We tracked the scents from the peace grid time and time again, but never caught him outside (yes, we'd kill him against your orders "we know he was your friend, we just didn't care" as ravian so bluntly put it with purg). Until 1 day, mark caught him outside and killed him. Good riddance.

Next, and this was pretty much the straw that broke the camels back (for me at any rate),

[7/14/2012 8:15:59 AM] Alay: [Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:10 AM] Jordan Clark:

<<< yes he's an ememy if he's from wild west You're out of the date.
[7/14/2012 8:20:38 AM] Alay: I asked Wild West people whether they're still enemies to Dis. They said they aren't
[7/14/2012 8:21:12 AM] Jarosław Bednarski: ofc
[7/14/2012 8:21:28 AM] Alay: After Portgas didn't come to help them when we were raiding Wild West village with camping the ram they kind of lost ties with WF.
[7/14/2012 8:21:35 AM] Airbase: lol
[7/14/2012 8:21:42 AM] Airbase: so i can sell them goods?
[7/14/2012 8:22:03 AM] Airbase: Well, i can
[7/14/2012 8:22:13 AM] Airbase: because i trade with wf also (worry)
[7/14/2012 8:22:16 AM] Jarosław Bednarski: WF lost 4-5 players
[7/14/2012 8:22:18 AM] Jarosław Bednarski: now
[7/14/2012 8:22:32 AM] Jarosław Bednarski: i see poles from WF looking villages
[7/14/2012 8:22:51 AM] Alay: I'd want Wild West guys to be not touched. Plz guys plz.

I will not be allies of the people who ferryman bugged away from us so many times i'm pretty sure it crosses into the triple digits.

To top it all off, you wanted us to be allies with fucking wulfgar who likes to raise false alarms and spew bullshit in the ainran/dis chat. Had enough after this incident

[7/14/2012 6:03:08 PM] Jarosław Bednarski:
[7/14/2012 6:09:58 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: airbase lost now vault
[7/14/2012 6:09:58 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: lol
[7/14/2012 6:10:03 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: 3 DH here
[7/14/2012 6:10:27 PM] Tyler: where at
[7/14/2012 6:10:44 PM] Tyler: O_o
[7/14/2012 6:11:09 PM] Ravian: wut
[7/14/2012 6:11:30 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: fort karfagen
[7/14/2012 6:11:58 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: no air so i dont raid this crap
[7/14/2012 6:11:59 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: xD
[7/14/2012 6:12:07 PM] RJT: Are there people there
[7/14/2012 6:12:10 PM] RJT: like enemies
[7/14/2012 6:12:13 PM] Tyler: ^yea
[7/14/2012 6:12:18 PM] Jordan Coles: USE ENGLISH
[7/14/2012 6:12:18 PM] Tyler: is there q.q
[7/14/2012 6:13:29 PM] Jordan Coles: Need more
[7/14/2012 6:14:00 PM] Tyler: wulfgar u there lol
[7/14/2012 6:14:39 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: i move
[7/14/2012 6:14:43 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: map under WF
[7/14/2012 6:14:51 PM] Ravian: wulfgar if you are trolling
[7/14/2012 6:14:53 PM] Ravian: i swear to god
[7/14/2012 6:15:05 PM] Tyler: yea like is there enemys somewhere or what going on
[7/14/2012 6:15:09 PM] Tyler: O_o
[7/14/2012 6:15:14 PM] Jordan Coles: USE ENGLISH
[7/14/2012 6:15:17 PM] Jordan Coles: AND HURRY THE FUCK UP
[7/14/2012 6:15:20 PM] Jordan Coles: Plz :3
[7/14/2012 6:15:31 PM] Tyler: ^ what he said q.q
[7/14/2012 6:15:44 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: dont se xD
[7/14/2012 6:15:47 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: lol
[7/14/2012 6:15:50 PM] Tyler: ..
[7/14/2012 6:15:52 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: i go more drunk
[7/14/2012 6:15:55 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: need more power
[7/14/2012 6:15:59 PM] RJT: Wulfgar
[7/14/2012 6:16:01 PM] Jordan Coles: I'm going to stab you./
[7/14/2012 6:16:06 PM] RJT: if you weren't chased
[7/14/2012 6:16:20 PM] RJT: I will hunt you down
[7/14/2012 6:16:21 PM] Ravian: http://puu.sh/IzJh
[7/14/2012 6:16:26 PM] RJT: and kill you
[7/14/2012 6:16:47 PM] Ravian: wulfgar, you're going to have to talk with alay
[7/14/2012 6:16:49 PM] Ravian: this is bullshit
[7/14/2012 6:16:50 PM] RJT: This is why ainran barely fucking checks these chats
[7/14/2012 6:16:58 PM] Jarosław Bednarski: here is peace grid?
[7/14/2012 6:17:07 PM] RJT: Tired of going on wild goose chases with noobs
[7/14/2012 6:17:15 PM] Jordan Clark: lol
[7/14/2012 6:17:19 PM] *** Jordan Clark has left ***

All in all, glad i can kill wulfgar and wild west again.

[Kaios]

still going on and on and on

I'm not saying this is not part of the game, but it's a really shitty part. The fact you even think it's ok that this happened though really worries me about the future of this game.

Just a few things Ainran said about Dis.

did a monkey write this??

[BoOty]

Next came the alliance with persi's village. He raided in the peace grid, then contacted us for an alliance, despite knowing he'd raided in the peace grid, you and qant decided to accept his alliance. We tracked the scents from the peace grid time and time again, but never caught him outside (yes, we'd kill him against your orders "we know he was your friend, we just didn't care" as ravian so bluntly put it with purg). Until 1 day, mark caught him outside and killed him. Good riddance.

1. Isn't it non-agression pact?
2. Do you really think Mark caught him? Did he even check scents if they're pointing to dead body?
3. Why are you writing if you don't know the story, only points which you're interested in, which just fit to your story?

[7/14/2012 8:22:16 AM] Jarosław Bednarski: WF lost 4-5 players [...]
[7/14/2012 8:22:32 AM] Jarosław Bednarski: i see poles from WF looking villages

Really, you're still keeping this troll in your confo He is the biggest liar i have ever seen.

[bmjclark]

Next came the alliance with persi's village. He raided in the peace grid, then contacted us for an alliance, despite knowing he'd raided in the peace grid, you and qant decided to accept his alliance. We tracked the scents from the peace grid time and time again, but never caught him outside (yes, we'd kill him against your orders "we know he was your friend, we just didn't care" as ravian so bluntly put it with purg). Until 1 day, mark caught him outside and killed him. Good riddance.

1. Isn't it non-agression pact?
2. Do you really think Mark caught him? Did he even check scents if they're pointing to dead body?
3. Why are you writing if you don't know the story, only points which you're interested in, which just fit to your story?

[7/14/2012 8:22:16 AM] Jarosław Bednarski: WF lost 4-5 players [...]
[7/14/2012 8:22:32 AM] Jarosław Bednarski: i see poles from WF looking villages

Really, you're still keeping this troll in your confo He is the biggest liar i have ever seen.

I should clarify i suppose, mark killed persi, not neccesarely the person raiding in peace grid, the point stands. I don't understand why dis would put a non-aggression pact with with people who raided in the peace grid. It's a little sad that they even pretend to enforce the peace grid tbh


Second, jaroslaw is wulfgar, you can understand why he bothers me i suppose

[BoOty]

I don't understand why dis would ally with people who raided in the peace grid.

That's why - it's not you who has pact with him atm. The both side know reasons as i suposse. It's not my problem, so i think it's close issue now - for me.

Second, jaroslaw is wulfgar, you can understand why he bothers me i suppose

Yep, i know he is Wulfgar and yes - in this point i can understand you.

[burgingham]

No more than it is a part of real life.

So you are saying that a lie/betrayal in a game where deception is a major concept, is as bad as a lie/betrayal in real life that is unrelated to such a game?

Do you honestly believe that?

You are kinda not talking about what has happened here though. The betrayal happened irl first and then people took it into the game. You sounded like that betrayal, the real one, wasn't actually real just because the persons involved only communicate with eachother over the internet.

What you are talking about with Potjeh is a whole other story. Of course the game should stay a game...HnH is kinda special in those regards though.

[NaoWhut]

Of course the game should stay a game...HnH is kinda special in those regards though.

Aint that the truth <3

Glad to see you speaking with a clear head on
this topic, you seem to understand it more than
half of Dis xD

The betrayal happened irl first and then people took it into the game.

Wasn't really a betrayal though, just drama