War between winterfell, ainran and R&C.

[Potjeh]

What's wrong with them staying behind their walls, you can just ram them. There's nothing wrong with siege mechanics, right Nao?

[Tonkyhonk]

i just fail to see the issues some of you have here with winterfell side defense, except for the fact that they may decide to side with NNN for their justice.

*edit*
btw, a happy birthday to you, aracos.

[Valten21]

my only issue was we can invest the materials to build 2 houses, 2 rams, 8 strong box's, and if it wasn't foiled there with poor placement of the SB's, it could have been by getting 1 alt killed in the path between our ram and there inner brick wall.

But that's not an issue I have with with Winterfell. Siege mechanics. I've talked in depth with Aracos about this anyways, just making it public as he has decided too. Also, Baxstabs, Aracos mentioned he doesn't use foraging alts. I don't personally, so I hope he's true to his word as well. I can only hope for you to attack me while I'm foraging, doesn't appear it will happen any other way. - in before stealth comment, I'll stop wearing my merchant robe, ranger cape, and cuirass when I leave scents near your place

[cobaltjones]

Do people not realize you can check the hitbox of an item while it's still a signpost? Seriously how do you fuck that up?

[Ormor]

I was alone.. several times at your walls. One being
today, where you have 5 alts walking around and/or
talking to me directly... i even took one of you for
a boat ride when it was clear i'd have no fight

This is real. I was on his boat with mah naked alt talking about past.

hi guys, so uh... i think i'm late !
just to let people knows here, the raider at folkhaven caught the warriors when they're sleeping

besides, back then from the info i gathered from one of my villagers, the winterfell's guys UA is only around 100 or 150s, not even 200
they're pretty weak and coward... since the mastermind of the raid knows when we're sleeping, they go straight to it

Note for Winterfellers: hearing a story by just ONE SIDE isn't really accurate, did someone ever taught you that ?

You prolly know why we went to find you, don't you coward? Do I have to remind you what you did to me and other villagers?

Well, Ranma, kicked me out from the village, as me other villagers, cause reputed INACTIVE. Mmh, 600+ bricks per hour to get fast on the Brickwall, yeah you are prolly right, this mean inactive. The best part of this story is that he waited for me to go offline, so he kicked me, destroyed my hearth fire and then dekinned me, BUT, his girlfriend didn't. SO, I asked her if Ranma was online and she said he wasn't, BUT another one guy, friend of Ranma said to me that he was. Also he said to Beamish that I was kicked cause I exchanged 2 bears with a guy, for a ranger cape and a sling (this one was gifted). Obviously, before making the exchange I asked Ranma if I could do it, and he said I was free to do what I wanted.

SO RANMA,

Note for Ranma "The Liar": hearing a story by just ONE SIDE isn't really accurate, did someone ever taught you that ?

Other than this, was a good loot. Ty Ranma for had left the key of the Minehole on one of us. IDIOT!

[erozaxx]

hi guys, so uh... i think i'm late !
just to let people knows here, the raider at folkhaven caught the warriors when they're sleeping

besides, back then from the info i gathered from one of my villagers, the winterfell's guys UA is only around 100 or 150s, not even 200
they're pretty weak and coward... since the mastermind of the raid knows when we're sleeping, they go straight to it

Note for Winterfellers: hearing a story by just ONE SIDE isn't really accurate, did someone ever taught you that ?

How is raid with 100UA cowardish? Dont understand it. Your guy who had much higher UA and even when he knocked me down and went to help his friends against Ela and Ara (where Ela did 3vs1 and got U all) there was no running away and just waited for getting back consciousness and approached him again. (with actually 80+ UA).

But how could you know, afraid to log in.

...

Nao being clever not to go out just because U are telling us U are alone is not being coward. It's called common sense. U are not the most truthfull 1 here, are you?

No one of us take themselves for a pro player and frankly with half of us playing casual as we are we can not be at all. So there is no point showing up our mains for Valten's shoot pracitce. Does not mean when we get caught by U outside or u finally get into our village we will run like wabbits or smthing. Actually I was looking forward for a skirmish after U break our walls, then we found Ur noob-mistake and bought ourselves some more time to get our stats a bit closer Urs.

Still in play for this Nao:


Finally - about abusing bugs? There is no bug abusing from us. Who/what are we blocking by the statues completely? Jorb or Loft, back in times, when they cared, stated: Bug abusing is only when THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO GET THROUGH THE BLOCKED PLACE -> is not our case, is it?. Placing statues were purely for giving u some obstruction, with help of alts we just wanted to make sure, ur ram will not reach our second wall at one turn and u will have to repair and camp 8 more hours - its called tactics. Common, fighting against much stronger and prolly most experienced PvPers in this game U don't expect us opening gate and running all-out attack while screaming THIS IS [not] SPARTAAAAAA!!!! (btw Sparta Praha is my favourite soccer club, aside Victoria Plzen (who did pretty well against Ur Milan noobs Ela ).

[burgingham]

The issue is that Aracos claimed to not use any exploits in game. He said stuff like even using an alt is wrong. Now he spams alt bodies to block areas?

Any kind of exploit is wrong in Aracos eyes, but then using crossroads and statues to their "fully intended" mechanic as ram blocks is ok? That is certainly why Jorb and Loftar added those...


Same for his talks of Winterfell/him being completely peaceful, despising violence etc. Now he starts a full blown war over some random scents at an unrelated clay node? Lover of peace indeed.

To top it all off he was usually sitting on his high horse, judging us for abusing exploits to defend our town. When he himself does the exact same thing. In his narrow mind however this all will be of course something compleeeetely different.

Edit: You WF guys are so adorable justifying this right now. Just be men and addmit you are exploiting the shit out of a broken game like anyone else who wants to stay alive. Otherwise please go back to vanilla client, stay beside your leather while it is drying and get those infinite fires out of your basement. Jeez...

[erozaxx]

You WF guys are so adorable justifying this right now. Just be men and addmit you are exploiting the shit out of a broken game like anyone else who wants to stay alive. Otherwise please go back to vanilla client, stay beside your leather while it is drying and get those infinite fires out of your basement. Jeez...

LOLWUT?

I understand your moral issues with Aracos's bug/exploit fights before. But I am not Aracos and using strongboxes and Timbers to block ram is the same exploiting as anything else. If we closed our village in statue wall call us bagousers. But just using game mechanics to bother and annoy sieging side to siege us far away from building any HV (btw none of us have one, aside from most of the siegers I would say)
But using anything hard to destroy to block the build of ram? Exploit? Ahahahaaa. Would building roundpole fence be exploit as well? No? Just because it is destructible by alt? Where are we getting to? Hey noob - U have built roundpole fence to boar not attack U? Die u exploiter, boars are ment to kill you, dont defend yourself.


SUMUP: Bagousers: NO, Exploiting mechanics to annoy raiders: YES, Exploiting mechanics to prevent being sieged: NO, Ara's moral issue with this: Questionable, His matter, his moral sense.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

EDIT: Wanted to PS:
We have raided 2 villages. Motivation is not your concern. Anyone has his own motivation and we are not raiding for lulz or for spoiling others game. Even if you think we have raided Diuma for loot only - so what? Wolves are hunting when hungry. Being peacful and weak, getting butchered by Ainrain for lulz while passing by to have a chitter-chatter with their hug-friend Korus would be maybe heroish, but stupid.
But the main message in this, and trully what most bother all the haters, is that we did both raids without using ANY exploit at all. Social engineering, using weakness in peoples minds and their basic bad habbits is how we did the raid and this is what bothers siegers. That they could not just scream on forums shouting " Look bagousers, we are raiding them, because they use bugs and exploits to raid." And just because of this they are using any of our defensive attempts for calling us such, because there is not and never be any legit reason for callin us that.

[burgingham]

Building a fence around a boar of course is an eploit too...

So is using statues as a ram block (even if one fails horribly at it). Those things are meant to expand your territory, not to be an indestructible wall.

I wouldn't mind at all if you used this and simply be quiet about it. Everyone does it. But Aracos looking down on everyone else and telling shit like he wouldn't even touch an alt since that is such a horrible exploit is so damn laughable.

[Valten21]

Well I might only be speaking for myself rather then the rest of Ainran, but well played anyways. Hope to see you all soon.