Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

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Re: Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

Postby Ranma » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:59 am

so, how long you've been there ?
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Re: Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

Postby Mcporkins » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:00 am

joojoo1975 wrote:
Mcporkins wrote:Two men are floating in the ocean after a shipwreck and one grabs onto a small board that manages to keep him afloat, but the other guy sees it and wants to hang on too, but the first man knows the board wont support them both, so he pushes the second man off and watches the man drown. Is the first man a die hard criminal? (some will say wtf does this have to do with anything? fine, answer me this, a man walks into a bank to rob it and massacres everyone inside and leaves with all the cash only to turn around and give it to a childrens hospital that is going broke, is he truly bad?)



as for your first scenerio. i guess if you canot both hang on and keep your heads above water, then it's a"it's him or me" kinda scenerio. no probs. but i would try all my options first(i would rather drown tryin all i could to help my fellow man, than live with the fact i let a helpless man in my same situation die)

as for the second option: to murder innoscent people in order to keep a hopsital going is just plain stupid. the ends Do not Justify the means. Also do ya really think the money is gonna stay with the hospital after the cops get there and sort it all out?



now as for your ideas. man do you really think that exploiters and thier allies should be liked by honest folk? so if a dictator decides to open up orfanages for all the parentless children in his country(they are orphans because the dictator ruthlessly slaughtered the parents.) does it make him a kind dictator?

if a serial murderer gives all his proceeds from his "tell all" book to charity, should we still not shoot this motherfucker in the face?

(cold and cruel joojoo1975 gonna finish the rest of this)

if it were up to me, 99% of these ass hats would of had thier shit punched in already. you dont cater to exploiters, you exterminate them like the insects they are. we don't overlook fuktards who are too cowardly to do thier criminal acts without a hearthvault, we find them and nuke them from the bloody game. And you sure as Hell do not Say your gonna nuke Blatent game crashers and all around rapists of what was descent of H&H and then not follow through.

Joojoo, dont get me wrong, im not saying embrace them and dance and sing in hippy bullshit circles, im just saying keep them at arms length, the whole "keep my friends close, and my enemies closer" bit. and your answers actually made me smile. you sir have won. i just would like to see the outcome of this, as it intrigues me.

Tonky, most of the Buddhists works are open for personal interpretation, I chose to see the story as i stated, he had his chance for salvation, but his nature stopped him, when he struggled to keep the others off the spider web, as being a criminal is pure selfishly driven. and if looting raiding and such are not glorified and frowned upon, why are there death skills, rams, palisades, brickwalls, and weapons and armor? tonky i always enjoy talking to you, but from my seat this is how i see it.
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Re: Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

Postby Tonkyhonk » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:10 am

Mcporkins wrote:Tonky, most of the Buddhists works are open for personal interpretation, I chose to see the story as i stated, he had his chance for salvation, but his nature stopped him, when he struggled to keep the others off the spider web, as being a criminal is pure selfishly driven. and if looting raiding and such are not glorified and frowned upon, why are there death skills, rams, palisades, brickwalls, and weapons and armor? tonky i always enjoy talking to you, but from my seat this is how i see it.

jumping to a conclusion at first sight is never recommended in our buddhism. one form of avoiding it is seen in "zen" practice.
get yourself a better seat, or better yet, maybe remove your comfy seat completely and sit on a rock, and you might see things a bit deeper.
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Re: Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

Postby Kaios » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:22 am

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Re: Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

Postby Mcporkins » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:23 am

Tonkyhonk wrote:
Mcporkins wrote:Tonky, most of the Buddhists works are open for personal interpretation, I chose to see the story as i stated, he had his chance for salvation, but his nature stopped him, when he struggled to keep the others off the spider web, as being a criminal is pure selfishly driven. and if looting raiding and such are not glorified and frowned upon, why are there death skills, rams, palisades, brickwalls, and weapons and armor? tonky i always enjoy talking to you, but from my seat this is how i see it.

jumping to a conclusion at first sight is never recommended in our buddhism. one form of avoiding it is seen in "zen" practice.
get yourself a better seat, or better yet, maybe remove your comfy seat completely and sit on a rock, and you might see things a bit deeper.


sorry, but I have sat upon many rocks, chairs, pillows, etc. in my life. What i see is an application of personal morals into a game. I have a deeply profound respect for buddhism. But my words are tempered with experience and age. they may be evil, or misunderstood. It does not matter, when all i want out of it is to see its outcome, not having a personal stake in it.

yes you do kaios
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Re: Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

Postby burgingham » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:44 am

Ranma wrote:so, how long you've been there ?


Me? Was hermitting with Darki for a little less than 2 weeks I think. Now Wakfu got released so I quit again.
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Re: Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

Postby ramones » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:49 am

Playing with Darki oh, now I see how you can know all about w6, silly me :D

(no negative comment towards Darki, don't get me wrong :) )
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Re: Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

Postby burgingham » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:00 am

What does that have to do with anything? Also, now you care again that I played?
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Re: Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

Postby ramones » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:18 am

burgingham wrote:What does that have to do with anything? Also, now you care again that I played?


It has nothing to do with anything, I just don't see how you can now say "I played, so I know all about world6" which you have been saying in other threads at one point when we shown you that you don't know lot of stuff going on and are not publicly know (like connecting PH to circlejerk etc.). Its ok, lets just forget it :)

And no, I don't really care, actually I had a thought a while ago that you could be hermiting somewhere with Miu, but didn't convince myself enough that it would be possible I guess. I'm glad about anyone that plays, be it you or new born newb :)
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Re: Project: Ainran&Dis preservation

Postby Tonkyhonk » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:28 am

Mcporkins wrote:sorry, but I have sat upon many rocks, chairs, pillows, etc. in my life. What i see is an application of personal morals into a game. I have a deeply profound respect for buddhism. But my words are tempered with experience and age. they may be evil, or misunderstood. It does not matter, when all i want out of it is to see its outcome, not having a personal stake in it.

there are too many things to list if i wanna truly talk about this work but it would only derail the thread.

you might have seen Dis in Kandata, but i see those, who criticize "nay sayers", instead. as in, you are fine as long as you are safe and sound, and dont care how they act on others where you are not related and even call them nice.
people are ofc free to give their own opinions. say yay or nay as much as you want. and i wouldnt object. i even spread the info to those who lived in the area but didnt know what was happening.
i choose neither yay nor nay myself and just watch it how it goes because it is interesting and entertaining to me.
however, imo, criticizing "nay sayers" for not being nice or whatever, is a total bs if you can actually think deeply.
trying to defend raiders who dont deny their actions and still insist on who they are with your blind sincerity, may satisfy your ego and you may feel good doing so, but dont force it to others who give their own opinions. this thread should have both views to make it clear to those who didnt care about reading forums before.

just for your info, this work is not really a buddhism btw. in our buddhism, its not just 2 worlds of hell and heaven, but we have 6 worlds where you reincarnate forever untill you reach the nirvana. heaven is also considered a cycle of human sufferings. this work is rather more christian to me, but with buddhism elements.
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