Gomorrah (Ainran) is Burning.

[Astarisk]

That you know of. I don't feel the need to disclose any more information about the topic to prove my point to you, so I will just end my banter here.

@ Astarisk. I will say Dis's use of bugged rams on the Oddimonium were bull shit, where Aracos tried to claim it was ok because only "ONE" ram was used, and it was only used for "LOOT".

maybe Aracos feels the same way?

He's not expressing himself that way.

I feel like you are just trying to infer stuff now and put word in Aracos' mouth. I don't recall a single post of his saying that the use of the ram was ok. What did instead was imply that he used ONE bugged ram. This is because throughout the entire beginning of the thread people were calling the entire raid bugged, from beginning to end, all he did was clarify and admit it. You need to read more into context and less into what you want him to say. I personally don't see him expressing anything.

He isn't making excuses, he admitted it upfront and has not claimed the entire usage was "ok"

[Sleep]

Aracos chose to take the moral high ground, he lead me to believe that Ainran and Dis are full of people who are "gay", "stupid", and "bagousers", and that Winterfell would never stoop to such lows. Even after using the ram bug he still claims he's legit?.

How would Ainran and Dis be full of people who are gay when toska isn't around.

[rye130]

Valten isn't upset because they used a bugged ram, he is upset that Aracos repeatedly put himself above everyone else by claiming not to bug and to play legit even though he is willing to bug ram too. A bugged ram is a bugged ram, who cares of you already rammed one wall legit. This is like how many people were upset with Koya, it was slightly because of ADs actions but primarily because he wouldn't just accept/admit to the nature of his village and always tried to make excuses or hide thing when the truth was pretty blatantly obvious.

[ramones]

Aracos becomming Koya, thats closer to reality

[Astarisk]

Valten isn't upset because they used a bugged ram, he is upset that Aracos repeatedly put himself above everyone else by claiming not to bug and to play legit even though he is willing to bug ram too. A bugged ram is a bugged ram, who cares of you already rammed one wall legit. This is like how many people were upset with Koya, it was slightly because of ADs actions but primarily because he wouldn't just accept/admit to the nature of his village and always tried to make excuses or hide thing when the truth was pretty blatantly obvious.

The problem here is that you want to associate every member of the raid as Aracos. That's just not the case, more than Aracos was present during the raid. He started this raid off by placing and using a legit ram at the wall and succeeded. He could of bugged that, but didn't, instead he went and tried to do a completely legit raid. I doubt he planned the raid with the though in mind of specifically bugging a ram to get into that one plot.

For all that we know the idea to use a bugged ram came from the members of his party. I suppose he could protest it, but how often does that work? We can see here in this thread that Valten claims to protest the use of bugs by dis and scolds them for using it. Has it worked for him? No? Dis still continues to use bugs and exploits to raid.

I suppose we could also say he could just leave the party and raid and let them continue on their own (However I'm more than sure over half the people here would still continue to bitch about it even though its not his fault). But at that point he'd be betraying friends, so it seems like the situation is a lose-lose for him.

But what I do see forming here is a similarity between Valten and Aracos:

Valten dislikes bug raiding yet can still be seen at raids were bugs and exploits are present. Aracos dislikes bug raiding and can also be seen present at raids with bugs. Therefore I would like to conclude that Valten == Aracos == Hypocrite. If you want to call Aracos a hypocrite, I believe you must call yourself one also, seeing as how both of your actions seem to share quite a few similarities.

[rye130]

The difference is that Valten doesn't criticize others for using bugs when his villagers do. I will accept that maybe Aracos himself doesn't use bugs, but his villagers do and so he seems very hypocritical for chastising other's bug use.

[Sarchi]

Man, why the fuck is everyone shitting up a decent drama thread will all this santorum-soaked bullshite about who is worse than the other. Anyone with half a brain would realize it's just propaganda. Not even good propaganda at that.

[iceheart]

Man, why the fuck is everyone shitting up a decent drama thread will all this santorum-soaked bullshite about who is worse than the other. Anyone with half a brain would realize it's just propaganda. Not even good propaganda at that.

Didn't your faction and your enemies did the same thing world 5?

[Valten21]

Oh damn, when Aracos said he got access to all of Gommorah, I actually took his word for it. Plots belonging to Ramones, Ranma, Jiochan, Godlike, Jordan Clark, KlauE, still standing and good to go. So I guess all the cheese you got was the stash I had from Kaizers vault, and swarleys plot?

[Zeronine]

You were so mean as to not leave the keys lying around in the open, we kinda struck a brickwall in our progress after that.