My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

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Re: My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

Postby ramones » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:33 am

C'mon, no offence, but many players that quit and didn't start w6 don't really know about many situations that occured, so its really kick in the dust to say anything about some fears. Yea if you talk about Portgas running with 15 vs 3, or similar situations, but in same lines you mention fear when 12 warriors (in which group there were also some noobs who were just jump punching (their own!=!)) attack 20 of opposition and claim great victory, while all in all everyone says it was great and one of (if not The) best HnH battles ever, when all guys that quit playing a while ago said it was "nothing", "seen better", etc.

There will have to be a point, where either comments about how game sucks, which we all know, would have to be stopped, or you start playing again and suck with us.

Game doesn't end when a player quits, new players are joining, worlds are changing. When you see Winterfell using exploited statues than you know that there has been lot of changes during w6 ;)
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Re: My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

Postby burgingham » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:46 am

That battle isn't very interesting tbh. It was a random clash in the woods. But sure great for the ones involved.

I am talking about Ainrans and Dis attitude. Once claiming they would never ally and would always give eachother a sportsmanlike fight. There is nobody else left who could give them a good competition especially not when the two band together. So for me it seems like they chickened out of their old ways and degraded to some newbie killers. Let them try to justify that all they want, doesn't make it any less true.

That Winterfell was full of shit I have always known. It is just oh so satisfying to see hypocrisy on each side in the game especially from those who once critizised Sodoms way of playing. No matter if it is from the free spirited raider site, who all of a sudden turn conservative focussing on their security and their spot in the quality race. Or if from the white knights side who are all of a sudden abusing bugs just like everyone else when their city is at stake.

I am not coming back btw ;)
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Re: My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

Postby Aracos » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:12 am

burgingham wrote:That battle isn't very interesting tbh. It was a random clash in the woods. But sure great for the ones involved.

I am talking about Ainrans and Dis attitude. Once claiming they would never ally and would always give eachother a sportsmanlike fight. There is nobody else left who could give them a good competition especially not when the two band together. So for me it seems like they chickened out of their old ways and degraded to some newbie killers. Let them try to justify that all they want, doesn't make it any less true.

That Winterfell was full of shit I have always known. It is just oh so satisfying to see hypocrisy on each side in the game especially from those who once critizised Sodoms way of playing. No matter if it is from the free spirited raider site, who all of a sudden turn conservative focussing on their security and their spot in the quality race. Or if from the white knights side who are all of a sudden abusing bugs just like everyone else when their city is at stake.

I am not coming back btw ;)


and BAM! a random burg appears and thread turn into a blame winterfell thread for placing 5 useless statues lmao. I think saying we abused bugs is going to far, isnt it burg?
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Re: My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

Postby Valten21 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:13 am

Burgingham I would like to have seen you attack and kill Miu.
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Re: My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

Postby ramones » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:15 am

I know you're not, it was just a word :)

What I'm saying is, the situation is probably similar to Sodom v. AD. There would never be a clash like 15 sodomites out of AD walls and AD would decide to jump out with 15 people. But if sodomites would find AD guy in woods, they'd kill him. It's same here, Ainran was killing Dis guys and Dis killing Airan, wont reveal any scores since I don't know exact numbers, but there were casualties. My eyes see the pact just as something new, to keep people going in a game which needs to be completely rehauled to get its meaning back.

And along Ainran and Dis, there are many groups with alot of players that can cause shit. Korean towns, other russian towns (as Portgas 20man armies :D), Polen Horde with 40 people and I believe many smaller lonely killers.

Its just not apropriate to bitch about something that you're not participating over and over and over.
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Re: My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

Postby ramones » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:15 am

Aracos wrote:and BAM! a random burg appears and thread turn into a blame winterfell thread for placing 5 useless statues lmao. I think saying we abused bugs is going to far, isnt it burg?


My apologies for bringing it up, but I didn't use bug word but exploit ;)
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Re: My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

Postby Valten21 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:19 am

Ramones brings up another good point, don't think it's fair to look down on RoK, or RiC all of asuden, they are good players, not, noobs as you call them. AD is still noobs.

We could use the same reasoning you are using for the change from Waynesville to Sodom - , ah, they knew they couldn't do any good with out there bugged coal so you formed Sodom with Avu and others while you still had the persona of being a respectable faction, mhm. And before you say I don't know what I'm talking about, I didn't play in W2, you haven't played in this world either.
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Re: My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

Postby burgingham » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:34 am

ramones wrote:What I'm saying is, the situation is probably similar to Sodom v. AD. There would never be a clash like 15 sodomites out of AD walls and AD would decide to jump out with 15 people. But if sodomites would find AD guy in woods, they'd kill him. It's same here, Ainran was killing Dis guys and Dis killing Airan, wont reveal any scores since I don't know exact numbers, but there were casualties. My eyes see the pact just as something new, to keep people going in a game which needs to be completely rehauled to get its meaning back.


But that is simply not true anymore. They are allied now and not killing eachother in the woods.

ramones wrote:Its just not apropriate to bitch about something that you're not participating over and over and over.


Why not? This world is so lacking proper drama (no, killing noobs doesn't count) that I have to bring it to you from the outside.

Valten21 wrote:Burgingham I would like to have seen you attack and kill Miu.


Didn't know you and LayGoo were a couple. Then I understand your reasoning.
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Re: My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

Postby Valten21 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:38 am

Again, since when were RoK, RiC, Winterfell/Narfell, or Odditown "noobs"?
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Re: My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

Postby Shiro_kun » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:53 pm

ramones wrote:Yea if you talk about Portgas running with 15 vs 3


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