War between winterfell, ainran and R&C.

[Smurfette]

Erozaxx if u will have any reasonable facts or any true counterarguments in this topic just let me know. Cause for now this trolling is borring XD

[Tonkyhonk]

Bullshit is that Diuna was a newbies town? lol, they was going ourside and trading with keys in inv.. so this is the fact, that those ppl was newbies. I know even that they started to play just on this world.. We meet them cause they had theires first settlement near one of our villages.. And on the ending I think they didnt really realized what kind of ppl is playing HnH and how random scents could be a good excuse to raid them. They join us after some time, and in few days they wanted to move all to our main village.. But hey.. U Tonky was never a newbie xD "u born this way" xD

when i was a newbie, and living inside BN area, where they played the part of "white nights" there, i always made sure all my villagers notify me if they accidentally leave any scents in the vicinity, so then i could let potjeh or anyone in BN available know why. in case we left scents and failed to report any of them, i had agreed to allow them to crash us or whatever they feel comfortable with.
id say, it was your fault that you failed to teach those "newbies" how to react with their actions.
btw, i heard those newbie player village had pretty nice loots. it was all your laziness not to teach the important things than how to raise up quality and such while they managed to raise their quality that high without knowing about scents.
*edited for mistake on who and whom"

[erozaxx]

^^^

Plus Noob village having cellar full of cups of BBC? When I was noob (well i still am) I have seen the first BBC endgame... the day before Nao took it from me

They were not noob village. They were Cheese Farm of some bigger faction (we all know whoose one), which could just tell them how to use their xR while having them.

But anyway we all learned by faults. Someone is mad, someone says himself - well guess i did a mistake, lets analyze where and make sure not doing it again.

EDIT: spelling

[cobaltjones]

The issue is that Aracos claimed to not use any exploits in game. He said stuff like even using an alt is wrong. Now he spams alt bodies to block areas?

Any kind of exploit is wrong in Aracos eyes, but then using crossroads and statues to their "fully intended" mechanic as ram blocks is ok? That is certainly why Jorb and Loftar added those...


Same for his talks of Winterfell/him being completely peaceful, despising violence etc. Now he starts a full blown war over some random scents at an unrelated clay node? Lover of peace indeed.

To top it all off he was usually sitting on his high horse, judging us for abusing exploits to defend our town. When he himself does the exact same thing. In his narrow mind however this all will be of course something compleeeetely different.

Edit: You WF guys are so adorable justifying this right now. Just be men and addmit you are exploiting the shit out of a broken game like anyone else who wants to stay alive. Otherwise please go back to vanilla client, stay beside your leather while it is drying and get those infinite fires out of your basement. Jeez...

You sure are speaking a lot for Aracos here.

[burgingham]

I wouldn't mind at all if you used this and simply be quiet about it...

You definitely would, but it would be harder for you to find excuse for it. Period.

No, no I would not. I would defend my town in the same way as you, probably even with more drastic methods. Also, I would build the statues so that they aren't entirely useless.

You prolly know that enemies are to fight with same weapon. We used a their fault to defend us, not to raid. But yeah if you are retards you will say "Ara u b4g buzzers like others, u mad like a cow that fuck a bull!".

You seem to be mad. But this right here is what I am talking about. Aracos did say he would never use bugs, exploits, not even alts. A single alt spawned was high treason in his eyes. I recall sentences like: "Now if this was my town..." back in w5. This time it is his town. And oh what a surprise he uses the same exploits as everyone else to defend it.

@Tonky: You seem to have an agenda of misunderstanding me lately. I would not care at all about statue spam, alt spam or whatsoever. What I care about is Aracos hypocrisy. It was directed at me and Avu personally in the past. Telling us how he would never resort to such measures as we did when all we tried was to keep our town safe. Your argument is just plain dispensable and seems to only serve the purpose of framing me of something. I did always use questionable methods as soon as my towns safety was in danger. That has and always will be the point for me where I start to exploit and probably even abuse bugs (that I usually report beforehand). I will never start raiding people unprovoked, Sodom prefers to stay in peace and just farm our quality up. As soon as someone tries to interfere with that I will kick his ass with all weapons I can get my hands on. Though let us please not start this discusison again...
Btw it still looks to me like Aracos started this war more or less unprovoked. Probably got boring for the peaceful Winterfell. That however is not my main pooint.

It is simply Aracos hypocrisy and I will keep rubbing that in his face, because he has shown an incredibly arrogant attitude towards us in the past for being "exploiters".

@Cobalt: I am quoting his words. For those uninformed he lived in Pande for some time after he lost Winterfell. All he ever did was call us exploiters and bagousers though while conveniently staying logged off and not helping at all to keep his town safe.

[Smurfette]

Yeap, they was learning pretty fast thats why we wanted them in our community. But this didnt change anything. They still was managed to act in theires ways, besides our rules. This could be change when they would be with us in our main village.. but Aracos didnt left them time to do that xD Some stuff alsow was from us, cause we wanted to help them on the begining.. So yes, we didnt have this much time to learn them that ppl like to kill even when they dont have any reason for that.

I see that tonky want to be on that white horse, that dont leave scents .. cause Aracos isnt anymore good for this job xD

Edit: I dont understand ppl that claims that "we had diuna for cross for Ainrans attacks on Winterfell" or "this village was our cheese farm" or "we are lieing in every way in this story". Really u ppl dont know much about honesty.. Till this day i thought we was friends with Aracos, but now i see how Winterfell is hateing us.. for what? How u ppl could even playing with any other ally fractions in this way?

[erozaxx]

Anyway, guys and smurfs. The Congress lacked such drama post for a long time did not it?

EDIT:

...ppl like to kill even when they dont have any reason for that.

They had full cups of BBC, it IS more than a reason :] Are you saying you gave them those to make their start faster? Hmmm gonna hermit next to Ur walls, can I? Add me HS: SmurfLeech

But hey, fun aside. They made mistake, we were hungry. Brickwalled village is not noobstuff. The guy with boat on his head bragged about 260 UA when talking with me. They were far from being noob village. Not talking about loot - CCs 80, knuckles 60, BBC full cups, and so on.

Acted noobish, but were not noob villlage.

EDIT2: fucked up quoting

[Koru]

Sorry to dissapoint you, but it seems that our newbies had better village than your main is. And if that was cheese factory than lol, you should see the real one. Their only fault was using keys and they won't do it again for sure .

[cobaltjones]

What I care about is Aracos hypocrisy.

*link to chatlogs where burg suggests adding a key logger to their client and taking enemy accounts*

Dude, people's opinions change. He was obviously forced into this situation by the actions of others and the repeated inaction of the devs. I'm sure ideally he would love to live in a world with no alts and no exploits, but that simply isn't the case anymore. I don't know why you somehow expect him to sit there and get taken over by people who exploit the system simply because of his views of morality in the game. He didn't raid anybody using exploits and has seemed to take a pretty level headed approach to the state of the game, but there's not much he can do but fight fire with fire at this point.

I'm not aware of your previous interactions with him and maybe he was a haughty annoying little bitch in the past to you about this issues, but from what I've seen in this thread it seems like you're taking something completely unrelated to you (who no longer even plays the game) personally and it makes you look really bad here.

[burgingham]

His opinion changed within 2 days then. That is when he last rubbed his smug attitude in our faces.

I agree with you that such situations force you to act like he does. That is exactly my point. Him telling us before that he would never. And us telling him that he then will loose Winterfell again this world. He said: "So be it then. I will loose it" Something along those lines. Looks like he doesn't want to loose it after all

Basically the entire HnH community that matters is in the Skype chat where he mentioned this btw so they all know what I am talking about and by no means does it make me look bad here.