My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

[Anon9k]

if you talk about Portgas running with 15 vs 3

Sir, explain please this sentence. When and where did you saw that situation?

[bmjclark]

Allying to a like minded group of players...how dare we. We already raided together a few times, and never really attacked each other (except a few times from us a month or so ago). Why not make it official? This way we raid together frequently and trade resources with each other. It's not like the small amount of fighters we bring to the table is gonna tip the scales completely in their favor in their fight against the koreans.

You really think we're afraid of a real fight? I stood outside a vault with 1 other person last night, waiting for people to jump me. A vault where i knew full well 5 people came as reinforcements for the last person who stood outside. We calmly waited for a 5v2 to occur, no fight came. You really think a real fight scares us? Why would we walk around leaving scents for any one who cares to come track us online. I go out to raid at the same time every day, with 1 or 2 other people, hoping to hell people have picked up my scents and are coming for me. You know I have to lie about what town i'm from to even get people to consider coming outside, and even then, they don't believe me, because who else stands outside a town with 2-3 people waiting for a fight where the odds would be in the enemies favor?

You sound like avu, burg

[Koru]

Arguing with someone who is not into actual politics and tries to show us that we have no rights to have fun in a game he doens't play anymore. Why bother?

[LadyGoo]

Was going to do a huge post, post just cropped it out since most of the points were already said.

Funny things is Dis and Ainran beeing allied now (and RiC joining that big circlejerk), because they are too afraid of a real fight that would call them out on their non-existing superiority.

Once upon a time Koreans, poles and people from ex-sodom united against small group of Russians because they were too afraid to be called out on their non-existing superiority.

Guess you didn't stop to think there are just some good people in Dis I don't really want to fight against.

Ah, I recall the moment when I discovered we're traking NaoWhut (log in/ log off). When I shared this with my group they lost some optimism and the next conversation happened:
- Are you sure we're going to kill Nao?
(me) - Yes, let's go.
- You really want to do this?

The alliance of Dis and Ainran would't be able without Ainran guys being respectful in this forum whereas others were trying to blame us on everything possible to be so. It's based on small raids together with some of their members; trust being showed for 2 worlds to each other; the similarities between 2 groups.

Didn't know you and LayGoo were a couple. Then I understand your reasoning.

We weren't in the same meaning you are with Miu

[Ostara]

Allying to a like minded group of players...how dare we. We already raided together a few times, and never really attacked each other (except a few times from us a month or so ago). Why not make it official? This way we raid together frequently and trade resources with each other. It's not like the small amount of fighters we bring to the table is gonna tip the scales completely in their favor in their fight against the koreans.

You really think we're afraid of a real fight? I stood outside a vault with 1 other person last night, waiting for people to jump me. A vault where i knew full well 5 people came as reinforcements for the last person who stood outside. We calmly waited for a 5v2 to occur, no fight came. You really think a real fight scares us? Why would we walk around leaving scents for any one who cares to come track us online. I go out to raid at the same time every day, with 1 or 2 other people, hoping to hell people have picked up my scents and are coming for me. You know I have to lie about what town i'm from to even get people to consider coming outside, and even then, they don't believe me, because who else stands outside a town with 2-3 people waiting for a fight where the odds would be in the enemies favor?

You sound like avu, burg

It would seem that the best way for you to get a fight would be to have Dis as an enemy instead, seeing how you're both so like minded, no?

[bmjclark]

From my point of view, it was stressful fighting them to say the least last world. You act like we have any thing close to their numbers to give them a fair fight. It would either be 5 of us vs 1 or 2 of their guys, or 10 of them vs 1-3 of us. I mean don't get me wrong, i had a lot of fun fighting them. It was interesting, and since they are the only people who have tracked us online really, it always loomed over our heads that they could be 5 minutes behind us every where we went. But i see more of a chance of getting interesting fights like that fight between dis and the koreans, while we are allied with them.

All in all, it's been more interesting being allied to them. I thought that if we joined them things would get stale, but since we've been allied, we got called to a 15v15 or w/e it was (sadly, i was 10 feet away on my couch when it happened not paying attention to skype qq), to help raid a few places, and to one of their members being attacked by like 8 people. All far better then 5v1s and 15 v 4s of world 5 i would say .

also this

Guess you didn't stop to think there are just some good people in Dis I don't really want to fight against.

[ArvinJA]

It would seem that the best way for you to get a fight would be to have Dis as an enemy instead, seeing how you're both so like minded, no?

^--- Dis

[burgingham]

From my point of view, it was stressful fighting them to say the least last world.

Aha.

Arguing with someone who is not into actual politics and tries to show us that we have no rights to have fun in a game he doens't play anymore. Why bother?

I never said you are not allowed to have fun. I am just calling out the discrepancies between what some people say on the forums and how they act from what I read from the chat channels I am still in (granted they changed quite a bit the last days). RiC was never my target here though, so carry on Koru. You should be a little careful in your choice of words though. When you joined us in w5 you constantly criticized the Pandemonium leadership while you yourself had lost your town, had traitors still within the walls and have never achieved anything close to what we built over several worlds. Now I kinda hear the same tone in your voice.

Once upon a time Koreans, poles and people from ex-sodom united against small group of Russians because they were too afraid to be called out on their non-existing superiority.

Well, I like to make sure Although the alliance with the Poles was made by others and I was unaware of it really up to a certain point. At the point we needed them and the Koreans though we had lost 90% of our good players like Avu, Haba, Dataslycer, Ken and so on. Pande had recruited a bunch of players only in the game for a couple of weeks then and I didn't really object to anything anymore. I knew the great times were kinda over without the people I could count on and in hindsight I played far too long even though I knew the game had gone to hell.

You sound like avu, burg

I don't see how this is a bad thing. He is usually right in most things he says (for example when he told me to quit months before I actually did...). That aside I am always surprised when people attest me an angry tone or anything. I am writing here because I enjoy it. I always enjoyed the drama and the politics most about HnH so it kinda makes sense I still participate in that part a little especially since I am still very familiar with all major factions, know many of the players, how they function and so on. Cannot hurt to have someone from the outside shed some light on what is really going on behind the curtains.

[LadyGoo]

I'll do it simple.

Dis <3 Ainran
Ainran <3 Dis


Both don't want beloved one to be hurt ^_^

[Kaios]

I dunno guys, whatever happened to the whole "remain friends but still battle each other" thing you had going on? I mean have fun however you want to of course, but I've gotta agree with Ostara and Burg on their points in this case.