The story about glorious A.D

[bitza]

literally nobody in this thread is saying anything new. it's the same old poop-throwing contest that we've had like a dozen times or more. does no one here have anything better to do with their time?

[Avu]

The odds are that no not really.

[sabinati]

they could eat it instead of throwing it, that would be more productive, i think

[APXEOLOG]

@arhelog (is that correct? ^^), I find it to be very weak morals to say you do something because everyone does it. Should someone with strong characteristics not start going another way?

Also, while I really want to avoid blaming eachother who threw the first stone, but did you not kind of come into the game with the goal in mind to mess with us? We were just building our town, we never actively went after anyone, like at all...until the day you guys started attacking us.

So, your comment sounds a little like you blame the circumstances for the way you play, but I honestly cannot believe that given how your attitude was, even when there was no need to be aggressive or use bugs. You came to our town and other towns which basically were all peaceful and you started the wars that in the end led to a battle of the bug abusers...

Or am I missing a reason here you had for starting this entire storm? (And please don't say it was because Klaue, who had no relationship to any of us for years at that point, once massacred a couple of you guys in w2)

/psychology mode on
I'm very lazy person, with logical and rational mind. If you give me an axe, i will use it, even if other people use stone, just because axe is faster and better then stone. I know that bugs and abuses are bad (that's why i report them to devs) but i will not stop use them because i see it rational to use everything you can to achieve your goals.

And yeah, you spelled my nickname correctly

[Avu]

And what goals would those be? And even if those goals would be noble which is extremely doubtful since nothing noble has come out of your and yours actions then you'd still be the one that goes by the end justifies the means. And when you consider the more likely scenario of those goals being nothing more than personal satisfaction usually at the expense of others all you end up being is a small and petty bully. Congratulations!

[bitza]

well avu, part of why some people do what they do is the nice butthurt that they get to see much like you and burg are doing right now.

and i've had a very long PM convo with qant of dis about this same topic, and the tl;dr of it is "we do it because we can"

[Avu]

Is recognizing that the world is full of shitty people and hh no exception being butthurt? It's what it is. HH had the potential of being more than what it has become but I guess people just can't get past their basic nature. As for people doing it because they can I think that's an extremely shallow excuse. You can do whatever the hell you want in hh be a farmer a raider a miner or even a goody two shoes ranger. Yet I don't see any mass of people taking up that mantle because you know what? Being a ranger that only goes after bad people it's damn hard. So what dis and these others do is not something because they can it's because it's easy, because the alternative is hard and because that's who they really are.

Could I play the bad guys role? I mean emulating these. No not really. The closest I can come to it is taking a noobs high q node (but only if it's higher than my own, not before trying to recruit the noob, trade with him for the spot) and even then I would feel extremely bad about it. I guess I'm just wired wrong because it seems the majority at least the majority who stuck with this game is wired the other way. I am extremely empathetic towards others so much so that I usually prefer not to interact at all with noobs outside my own towns because I end up feeling bad for not being able to help them out more.

[bitza]

personally i think that there may be a particular subset or "archtype" of person who is attracted to the little numbers going up and the power and influence and prestige that it brings.

now, if i spend 12 hours a day on h&h making cheese and foraging mountains, i will have further progress than someone who spent 2 hours a day on h&h. i know now someone is going to think "well in 2 hours i can totally do blah da blah and this and that" or something and please don't do that now.

so, more time online, the more the numbers go up. now, what kind of people spend 12 hours a day playing video games? will these be happy, productive, socialized, successful and functional people in real life? again many people are now thinking "i'm a gamer and i go to school and a girlfriend and an 11-inch penis and i make a million bucks a year and blah de blah blah" but seriously now, some of you people spend way too much damn time on here and you know who you are.

if you spend all day playing video games it can disconnect you from real people and reality, that's why video games are so successful, they are a form of escaping from the boring shit that is everyday life sometimes. h&h mimics human interaction (quite poorly i might add), so it seems like you're talking to people, but you're just chit chatting in between clicking on things most of the time, or figuring out how power dynamics between yourselves.

ok so, if i'm committed enough to h&h to spend 12 hours a day doing the same repetitive boring shit over and over again so that the little numbers go up, you can be damn sure that i'm going to take full advantage of what i get for that investment of time

[bitza]

I am extremely empathetic towards others so much so that I usually prefer not to interact at all with noobs outside my own towns because I end up feeling bad for not being able to help them out more.

and this is a very interesting point too, it's easy to forget that the little hearthlings you see are actual real people who have put significant investments of time and energy into their characters and villagers

[bitza]

the political landscape of h&h is determined by 2 things, basically.

1. who's willing to do the same boring-ass things over and over again for incrementally diminishing increases in your little numbers
2. who's willing to cheat, exploit, bagouse, whatever, the most

for example, i heard a rumor that someone's got like q1600 crops now, can anyone confirm? how long could that have taken?