The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby Avu » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:48 pm

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I mentioned it in skype and possibly irc but anyway: I still think people are responsible for their account security (even though gato-rage case was way different) what I am more pissed about is doing nothing to portgass. He is clearly not here in the best interests of the game. He is giving a big fuck you to everyone especially jorb and loftar and what do they do? Nothing as usual.

Anyway let's take a theoretical case though: what if ender ever gets very pissed with the comunity and pulls a similar stunt? You can basically say goodbye to that world. The only reason this shit hasn't been way worse is simply because portgass is incompetent but actions like his have to be punished or someone competent will do it sooner or later and then you'll be in big dooodoo.


P.S. Why do I bring up the raider factions all the time? It's because they thrive in this shit environment. Nobody to oppose them on silly reasons like justice or protecting the weak or whatfucking ever. Of course they'll say the game is great and doesn't need fixing.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby LadyGoo » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:01 am

Just reading all those messages…. I just wonder why the people who quit the game long time ago or simply have no idea about what is going on continue boring discussion and seriously suggesting shutting down the server. Would be more productive, I guess, to hear some comments from the people who are actually actively playing and affect the world significantly.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby cobaltjones » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:27 am

Really great posts/discussion by Spiff/burg over the last couple pages. Really surprised and impressed that this didn't devolve into the same tired arguments that it usually does when stuff like this comes up.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby WarpedWiseMan » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:32 am

LadyGoo wrote:Just reading all those messages…. I just wonder why the people who quit the game long time ago or simply have no idea about what is going on continue boring discussion and seriously suggesting shutting down the server. Would be more productive, I guess, to hear some comments from the people who are actually actively playing and affect the world significantly.


Because fuck you.

No, seriously. Fuck you. This game was about relationships and consequences. It was about survival and striving and discovery and just about the best sandbox experience you could enjoy. It was a bug hunt to see who could get the coolest dev item. Whole world trading and politics. Fun.

Today, thanks heavily to such fucktards as Koya, yourself, Naowhat and Klaue and the 10 or 15 faggot clones you've spawned, the game is about winning at any cost. By cheating, exploiting, and basically being a douchebag. That isn't fun for most normal people. You know people with significant others and friends who enjoy the casual and social aspects of gaming and not the "lulz" of being a complete dick because you can.

I hope they shut down the game, turn off the server and then bring it back quietly without telling the entire continent of Asia.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby cobaltjones » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:34 am

WarpedWiseMan wrote:
LadyGoo wrote:Today, thanks heavily to such fucktards as Koya, yourself, Naowhat and Klaue and the 10 or 15 faggot clones you've spawned, the game is about winning at any cost. By cheating, exploiting, and basically being a douchebag.

The game was always about that.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby LadyGoo » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:37 am

WarpedWiseMan wrote:*cry*
Dude, you don't know what is going on in this game, do you?
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby Kaios » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:39 am

LadyGoo wrote:Would be more productive, I guess, to hear some comments from the people who are actually actively playing and affect the world significantly.


And who are those people supposed to be? The account thieves or the raiders? Those are the only people I know of affecting this world (considering I have done some raiding to) and I think we already know what those people will say.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby WarpedWiseMan » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:39 am

cobaltjones wrote:
WarpedWiseMan wrote:
LadyGoo wrote:Today, thanks heavily to such fucktards as Koya, yourself, Naowhat and Klaue and the 10 or 15 faggot clones you've spawned, the game is about winning at any cost. By cheating, exploiting, and basically being a douchebag.

The game was always about that.


No, actually it wasn't. People may have exploited, but then they reported them to the devs for items, not hoarding little secrets to ruin someone else's fun.

DatOneFatGuy and Gato and Sharki and everyone else had capes and whatnot as a symbol of pride that they'd helped the game and to distinguish themselves from the rest of the player base.

Also, the game was about building relationships with your neighbors and partnerships to destroy your enemies. If you didn't experience that, then you haven't really played "the game".
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby WarpedWiseMan » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:48 am

LadyGoo wrote:
WarpedWiseMan wrote:*cry*
Dude, you don't know what is going on in this game, do you?


Just know I won't ever respond directly to anything you ever have to say after this. You may have won burg's and some other people's respect because of whatever happened in world 5 but I don't give a shit what you think and never will.

As far as I'm concerned, you and koya and portgas and giygas and Nao's clones, and every other useless trinket these forums and the game at large have devolved into, are a part of a cancer. A cancer that thinks of itself as an important part of the organism but is really just a sickness caused by developer apathy. My hope is that jorb and loftar come back to Haven & Hearth and blast the game and the community with some serious chemotherapy.

Wither and die, bitch. Wither and die.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby LadyGoo » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:58 am

Kaios wrote:And who are those people supposed to be? The account thieves or the raiders? Those are the only people I know of affecting this world (considering I have done some raiding to) and I think we already know what those people will say.
Using your logic everyone in this game who has a big village are raiders are associated to. Simply because someone might have higher q spot, being dangerous for your villagers in the area or at war with someone else. Of course, raiding for fun as well.

Also, the game was about building relationships with your neighbors and partnerships to destroy your enemies. If you didn't experience that, then you haven't really played "the game".
I've watched how people had to unite with those whom they might hate simply to survive. I've seen people who had to lie through their tees in order to not being raided by stronger. I've experienced how mods there were using their moderator abilities to gain an advantage and called it just part of their war.

Meh, and about whether I really played this game... our faction didn't just appear from nowhere. :) When Vitterstad returned to H&H in W5 we were supported by other russian speaking players because they were threatened by Pande and their allies. We united, we knoe each other well, enjoy playing other games as well. This game is still about it. You cannot have a big faction of 20, 30, 40, 50 without having established relationships. This world just is pure as it is without black and white. ^^
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