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Re: Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

Postby LadyGoo » Fri May 18, 2012 6:50 am

2 Cranny
is there a legitimate way to move a ram, using it to destroy 7 wall tiles, afterwards moving it 4 tiles and using it to destroy a corner post and a wall tile without cool down timing?

I am not quite sure what did you mean there. Making a guess that you think if you broke 1 tile of bwall you need to wait for a cooldown. Well, it is not right. Breaking process does not affect the health of a ram. You can be breaking a section for 24 hours without moving a ram, and the ram will be full health. However, moving the ram does affect its health. So, if you'll move the ram a way too much, it will break. So:
- Any ready full health ram can run for 25 tiles.
- Then it is a random chance you'll get it rolling longer. The record was 35 tiles in W4 documented by #8 (the chieftain of A.D. in W3). My own record is 30 tiles from the test I have done in my own plot.
- When you break a section, other sections connected to the broken one will also decay. There is a random chance, again, how many sections will be broken from this. It might be none, 2,3,4 extra sections broken.
As for our ram, it was placed approx. 10 tiles away from the outer bwall, and approx. 15 tiles to the plot according to the ramplacer's words.

Can I miss something 10 tiles away?, I dont think so.
Well, A.D. guys were sure that we unsealed their bw cornerposts which of course, nonsence. Whole A.D. as they said were working on the walls, lot's of people they said. And they did not notice they did not seal the bw corner.
Same with Grapefruiv. It is easier for her to think her acc was hacked rather than accept she did a mistake, or someone from her village.

2Anon9k
but do not whine on forums, especially if you are so retarded to live in Dis' grid and don't think about consequences.
I do feel it is quite retarded to call so many people 'retards' just because they want to play peacefully? Feels like you have some problems with anything associated with Dis. But, please, do not make yourself look worse and worse.

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>Claim 2 bug-raids to show your strength, one of which was inactive.
Once again, my friend from Oddimonium. We are quilty only for 1 buguse in a raid. It happened when we were using rams inside of Oddi to break into the centraal area. However, you are silent about that we made a ram outside, legitly placed it in a brickwall pocket, even had our cr inside and did not summon any of us inside of it. You forgotalso to meantion that the majority of your plots were destroyed because you had rams all around the perimeter. You'd be destroyed anyways even we would not use the bug, since we broke in legitly, destroyed the majority of your plots using a legit method.

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are you being serious, when we all learned devs do not have time to babysit here right now?
why didnt Goo or her comrades report loud when they *had found* the ram bug in w5 and waited to mention it till vigi reported for a cape and they used it themselves in oddi?
Lol. The same reason as we've reported this server-crashing bug and it was fixed only months after. The animal in caves were also reported, as far as I remember. Still can yahooo in an oxcart inside of a cave.
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Re: Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

Postby painhertz » Fri May 18, 2012 6:54 am

Worst thread ever. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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Re: Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

Postby Tonkyhonk » Fri May 18, 2012 7:01 am

LadyGoo wrote:2Tonkyhonk
are you being serious, when we all learned devs do not have time to babysit here right now?
why didnt Goo or her comrades report loud when they *had found* the ram bug in w5 and waited to mention it till vigi reported for a cape and they used it themselves in oddi?
Lol. The same reason as we've reported this server-crashing bug and it was fixed only months after. The animal in caves were also reported, as far as I remember. Still can yahooo in an oxcart inside of a cave.

why did vigi get the cape, which was already force-taken by your lot, if YOU had already reported it long before?
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Re: Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

Postby LadyGoo » Fri May 18, 2012 7:14 am

Tonkyhonk wrote:why did vigi get the cape, which was already force-taken by your lot, if YOU had already reported it long before?

I have the same question to devs. They owe us few capes, but still did not give any. :)
Even Apxe was constantly begging for his cape before they gave it to him.
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Re: Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

Postby GrapefruitV » Fri May 18, 2012 7:17 am

LadyGoo wrote:Same with Grapefruiv. It is easier for her to think her acc was hacked rather than accept she did a mistake, or someone from her village.

here we go again
why did you wait a month to use it?
why would we take sign from personal plot with no wall and dont use it? i even not sure this cr existed during the first raid, will check screens later
why chieftain char was killed by our own hands one or two days before raid?
account was hacked - fact
im 80% sure i know who did this, and ye, he is not dis member
calling portgas an account thief based on the fact he got some profits from it though
this signs thing is unprovable for both sides now
my word against your word
but all details ive mentioned looks nonrandom to me
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Re: Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

Postby Amanda44 » Fri May 18, 2012 7:21 am

Tonkyhonk wrote:
Amanda44 wrote:HnH is a game, an amazing game but still a game, the object of any game is to win.

forum is a part of the game. especially ICA.
it is, though, each forumer's choice to take it too seriously and break up with ones own friends or not.

there are many ways to "win" this game. some people agree, some disagree. many people enjoy sharing their achievements or policies on the forums to hear what others think, to let others judge what they do. some people keep their own "win" to themselves for their fun and never post on the forums, so as not to let others judge. its all up to you.
hazzor, for example, is a winner (atm) for making that thread of default client adventure, and see how others responde


I don't disagree with anything you've said here, i do exactly the same with regard to the forum, i don't see how you think that contradicts my statement.

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As for bug abuse - thats totaly the fault of the devs for not fixing them, hardly that of serious gamers, who of course are going to exploit them - come on. :roll:

are you being serious, when we all learned devs do not have time to babysit here right now?
why didnt Goo or her comrades report loud when they *had found* the ram bug in w5 and waited to mention it till vigi reported for a cape and they used it themselves in oddi?


Dev's not having the time to fix bugs due to other projects - again, how is that the fault of the player?

I'm really sorry but i don't see the point in either of your comments and don't see how you think they negate mine. I also agree bugs should be reported, the difference is i wouldn't come down so hard on someone for using them when they are there.
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Re: Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

Postby joojoo1975 » Fri May 18, 2012 7:25 am

Amanda44 wrote:Stuff. rather a long page of stuff, but still important stuff never the less.


I think the major fight here is about acting all high and mighty but you use bug/exploits to help you achieve it(even though like 85% of the "major" factions use bug/exploits like they were gold from heaven). After that, it's the "try anything to defame/demoralize my foe" tactic.

Also I, for one, do not want to rule everyone, and other peeps prolly feel the same as I do to some extent.


And as why i'm still playing this game? :D (love you too, sugar)

it's because there is nothing out there that is like H&H enough for me to goto that.

Wyrum. Takes WAY too freaking long to lvl up any stats, and the PVP server is a ghost town. mayby whenever i raked my carrots and my farming would go up like a point or a half point or mayby even a .25 point, i might had stuck it out. but raking a field and seeing my farmiing go up like .01 or .004 yea no thanks. and i'm not even going to go into the land managment/setlement thing. i believe wyrum was the closest thing i saw comparable to H&H. if you think there's other games that are closer. Please list em.
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Re: Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

Postby Amanda44 » Fri May 18, 2012 7:32 am

joojoo1975 wrote:


And as why i'm still playing this game? :D (love you too, sugar)


Lol, i honestly didn't mean that in a nasty way, it's just you seem really principled and i find it hard to marry that to a game like hnh. :D
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Re: Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

Postby rubypinkfiend » Fri May 18, 2012 7:47 am

kaizokuroof wrote:
rubypinkfiend wrote:some facts from my short and sad life in hnh

1. I stand near market waiting for opening. Revolution soldier porting and suddenly killing me for nothing whithout single word, and steal everything that was on me and what i bring for trade. (i wasnt holding any kind of weapon and any armor)

a. Dis. Dis member give me some most valuable items that were stolen by rebel. Like 90q+ monocle and something more for free (not bad for start ey). Just coz i were killed near theyr market.
b. Leader of revolution. He say that he will give me 10 perls for stolen gear and death and give me his hs. In game juts ignore me and give nothing.

2. I stand near my house in my village semi-afk when suddenly Winterfell man with sledge hammer punch me nearly to death, in panic i run inside house and try to speak but he silently finish me. After robber all village for sure.

a. Dis. Take scents and say that will try to avenge me.
b. Winterfell (leader?). Say some crap about that im not neutral if i live in peacegrid and that killing helpless newbs is ok for them.

Profit!


I live in Australia ^_^ I was idling my sliders, you QQ'd and said you were quitting before I even got a chance to speak to you. Just FYII am by no means obligated to give you pearls, it was out of regret that I offered you those pearls, however I feel no reget now THX u Fur dIs GUrr.


SURE u didnt saw when i writed you once, then waited for 2 hours, then writed more, then waited for an hour.. NO CHANCE TO SEE IT. :lol: And even after u could pm me coz i was online alot of time but u did not. I guess huge regred feeling forced u stay away from it =0.
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Re: Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

Postby joojoo1975 » Fri May 18, 2012 7:53 am

Amanda44 wrote:Lol, i honestly didn't mean that in a nasty way, it's just you seem really principled and i find it hard to marry that to a game like hnh. :D


just because people's actions in this game make it into a total cesspool. I do not have to live by thier way or style. I don't have an "alt army" i only have 2 characters. my characters do have the murder skill, but they do not have theft or vandalism, though i'll prolly get theft rather soon seeing the PG is becoming more and more violent(gotta take them items off them corpses some how when they come a killin).

as for bug use? i treaspass on claims. and use the leather bug and the ore smelter bug. If you wish to say that i'm a horrible person, as you wish, but that's all the bugs I use.

I been here since W2 and have never killed anyone in cold blood nor have I griefed/stolen anything from anyone. only time i have killed has been in self defence of myself or my villagers/village property/rescource(and that's only after talking and communication has failed)


to be honest, this current form of H&H is not what I hope it shall be when J&L have time to work on it again.

but only time will tell.


I said in previous threads that i wouldn't want that power to nuke people who were exploiting. now I wish to change that position and say "Yes, i do wish to have that power."


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