The story about glorious A.D

[krikke93]

why do people take this game so seriously? like as if it's a second life D:
sure I play HnH alot, but I'm well aware it's only a game and I only play just because it's fun to do so.

besides, not all of us here play HnH in stead of spending time in real life. alot of us just look at HnH as an extra in life, something to fill up the empty boring spaces of real life and not replacing it.

now can this thread please stop, i don't really think anyone is much interrested in this conversation (I haven't even got an idea why I read parts...)

[NaoWhut]

Is it too late for me to get yelled at by
avu for having fun?

if not...





Love you Avy <3




Vault Down


And the perp :



Got killed foraging while we were breaking
into his vault. Hearth fire went out as we
found it

Kill goes to York.

A message to York:
I don't mind that York is tracking scents, i
don't mind much of the random scents they
leave. However when you attack randoms
on sight and one of those happened to be
my villager friend, it bothers me, Agro and
ask them where they are from, before killing
a random talk to them, after they are KO'ed
they will be far more willing to talk.

[GrapefruitV]

for example, i heard a rumor that someone's got like q1600 crops now, can anyone confirm? how long could that have taken?

lies
but crops are over1000 since january
and that was easy, I need to play only 20 minutes a day to replant it, you should add 1-2h for getting curios though, since at that level crops q is growing with pretty much same speed as farming

[krikke93]

That pclaim in front of the south wall made this the most genius illegal vault.

[burgingham]

well avu, part of why some people do what they do is the nice butthurt that they get to see much like you and burg are doing right now.

and i've had a very long PM convo with qant of dis about this same topic, and the tl;dr of it is "we do it because we can"

Huh? Wut? Why would any of us even be butthurt? That makes no sense.

I really felt like that last part of the conversation added some new insights to the topic, at least for me. Even if it only was that Fobia is a scary person.

[burgingham]

"text on no lifers"

Sure, these people exist and there is probably quite a lot of them in video games. That does not really explain why some choose to cheat and some don't, or why some are agressive and some are not. I am pretty sure there are both kinds among those no lifers.

I can say in all honesty that I would have never harmed a single person in this game if people just left me alone. Once people force you to get involved into aggressive gameplay though by thrusting it upon you...well then it gets chaotic and nasty and I had troubles always figuring out what was the right thing to do and what wasn't. I think that might be another insight from this thread at least for me. You start fighting dirty, because you want that shit to finally be over, you start being paranoid and punishing those who maybe did not deserve it, because everyone could be a spy (Kiribili, killing a "traitor" in our own town etc). Trying to be a good guy and fighting a war at the same time is like sprinting over a minefield...

Gives me some empathy for some real life politicans maybe ^^

[NaoWhut]

I can say in all honesty that I would have never harmed a single person in this game if people just left me alone. Once people force you to get involved into aggressive gameplay though by thrusting it upon you...well then it gets chaotic and nasty and I had troubles always figuring out what was the right thing to do and what wasn't.

<3 you do understand...

[burgingham]

Ok, so you feel the need to create chaos.


That is again very sociopathic. Do we have anyone here who is not a sociopath that likes to engage in aggresive gameplay? ^^

I don't really believe that every single person playing this way has such characteristics and I am still interested in explanations.

I got a message from Qant and it seems he is mostly just completely unaware of the moral implications his actions had. He seems rather unaware of him harming other humans at the other end of that internet cable and rather just acknowledges the "loot" sitting in their cupboards, much as if those people were just computer generated content.

So this is a lack of empathy then maybe. Goes into the same direction as the former answers. I sense maybe that is the whole reason behind it. The lack to emphasize with the fact that there are actual people playing this game. On the internet things are still so anonymous (that can be good or bad) and there is such a clear distinction between online and "real life" that it became a dictum.

I would personally argue and ask people to try and assume a different perspective on this (that is of course not limited to this game, but a general statement now) and accept the fact that the internet is just another tool to continue the everlasting communication we have everyday, everytime with real people and that all the rules that apply to us in the normal world, in face to face communication, also apply when we go online.

It would be interesting to have the entire HnH population sit and play in one room. A psychological experiment if you so want. To see wether in game behavior changes if the person you are about to rob sits right next to you and looks you in the eyes and asks: "Dude, what are you doing there?"

Can't really play out that one, but an interesting thought nontheless

[borka]

sorry Burg - snipped a lot of your post (otherwise i'd have to post a book in here and too much philosophical stuff)

On the internet things are still so anonymous (that can be good or bad) and there is such a clear distinction between online and "real life" that it became a dictum.

point is: the distinction is just an illusion - ppl think being anonymus and thus "untouchable" - but it's just a matter of whether someone is willing to put in effort and resources to make house visits ... ( in the FPS clannetwork i used to be in before my HnH addiction we did some of those "face to face confrontations" )

It would be interesting to have the entire HnH population sit and play in one room. A psychological experiment if you so want. To see wether in game behavior changes if the person you are about to rob sits right next to you and looks you in the eyes and asks: "Dude, what are you doing there?"

Can't really play out that one, but an interesting thought nontheless

do i hear HnH Lan Party ... ?!?

[GrapefruitV]

That is again very sociopathic. Do we have anyone here who is not a sociopath that likes to engage in aggresive gameplay? ^^

I think such people either dont read this thread at all or do not feel like they should come here and say "hey, I am a good guy, look how good I am in text". Being kind to others is not the thing, that good guy would like to talk about (unless this guy is a bragging attentionwhore)
Anyway, if you'll ask me, I feel bad for killing people, even though I dont do this for no reason. But I have to admit this feeling isnt that strong as 3 years ago, I couldnt sleep after my first kill in hnh, lol, the victim was a dirty thief, but he had such a cute noob depending on him