The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

[Sarchi]

DatOneFatGuy and Gato and Sharki

lol, is my name sharki now? :V

[Hourai_Chimes]

Now without a Pande, you guys rip at each other.

Also CodenameB summarized the entire crappage within this post. Thread can now be locked
j/k

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@ArvinJA: Are you honestly going to tell me that the one post jorb made is clear and gives out a plan? If anything it's just a vague "yeah here's what the problem is and we're working on it. kinda. but i'm not really gonna tell you how, just that we are coding the new system"

And so many of you talk as if things are going to be changed.
Cobaltjones, you say "everything can be fixed with a little arbitration" except, where is it? Where has the arbitration been for one year? I mean honestly, why are you kidding yourself into thinking things are going to happen when the evidence lies infront of us all--that nothing is happening and nothing is going to for a long time.

And you say these issues only pertain to those playing currently? Like hell it does. What about the people who have played for a year? year a half ? two years? almost 3 years? Do they just not matter? Why do you think they've quit? Does their time playing the game count for nothing? I'm not allowed to give my thoughtful opinion? Do you think I just conjured my views up in a few minutes? No. I've been playing this game for a while now and I see how it works--rather, how it once did.

You see, I and many others see, (or once saw) something beautiful about this game. It was something different, exciting, fresh, complex. But, where is it now? What state is it in? No, jorb and loftar aren't fully to blame. Part of it is my fault, and so many others too. It's too competitive. The naivete, the stupidity, the complete beauty of somewhat carefree gameplay, that was fun rather than stressful. The wonder of the petty arguements and quarrels that we all had--the camaraderie too, all of it made the game great. It was those things that made the game so wonderful. I mean honestly, think about it: does the game cause more stress than it does amusement? You may think my gushing is just vapid bullshit but it's real. I see something to Haven and Hearth and I hate seeing it go to waste.

Except, the fundamental issue is in jorb and loftar's hands. Why have vaults gotten out of hand? Why has the game been exploited to wits end? The answer lies in the lack of development. This game isn't in an alpha stage anymore. How can you call something alpha when its just sitting and rotting, only given the defibrillators at near death and then dropped off on the side of the road again?

And no, this thread shouldn't be locked. That's bullshit. This is a thoughtful discussion and cutting off the roots does absolutely fucking nothing. Along the same vein, neither does shutting the game down for good. Perhaps I should take back my statement and rather suggest a hiatus, one where everyone can reassess themselves, the game, and their plans. I truly think that is the best thing to do, rather then perpetuate this sorry state.

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One more thing I feel upset about...

Why is everyone so fucking obsessed with Pandemonium? That's over. The town is over. Get over it.

If you think for a minute that Pande members didn't fight ruthlessly from day 1, you are just ignorant. The best part of pandemonium and Sodom was the arguments and disagreements. They were wonderful. Why everyone feels like they need to comment on relationships or broken ones is beyond me. I think that charade wore out long ago.

Although Pandemonium was most certainly a proponent of the downfall of the game--yes we were so fucking relentlessly competitive, but I believe that was brought upon us--we did tried to make it better, I hope we did at least. We did not get ourselves worldwide politically until Taar palibashed into Ramones' tree farm--even then it was like a month until we did something about it. We had one vault in the entire game (Paradise Lost), and it was used only a few times. Yes we did use bugs. What more do you want from us? Yeah we made our business public, and with that comes any scrutiny, however that world is over. That town, that group of people, it's all over. What's left however, is none of your business.

[TeckXKnight]

So, I think it's just worth noting that I've just gained a great deal of respect for WarpedWiseMan. Just saying.

[Sarchi]

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I love you.

u know it's rue

[Kaios]

Using your logic everyone in this game who has a big village are raiders are associated to. Simply because someone might have higher q spot, being dangerous for your villagers in the area or at war with someone else. Of course, raiding for fun as well.

You said you wanted someone to post who has made a significant impact on the world. Who else but the well known raider villages or the latest account theft have done such a thing?

I am not saying I have any issues with raiding, but come on it's not a very solid argument to completely deny the opinions of those who aren't playing for their own reasons. They are right that this world is shit, and I agree that it is too.

The only difference however is that I currently play it regardless because I try to enjoy the time I spend playing this game.

[painhertz]

This whole thread? Much ado about nothing.....

[Koru]

*cry*

Dude, you don't know what is going on in this game, do you?

I like you more and more Goo .
This thread is messed and mix real problems of the gameplay with personal issues. The game doesn't look like some ppl would like to see it so they want to the rest of the community quit.

[rye130]

I forgot how much I missed you Warpy <3

The game has completely changed from w3 till now. W3 had a very competitive spirit between Sodom and AD but it was never a complete "Let's destroy the game in order to win" sort of competitiveness. For example, the super OP tables, hemp, tobacco and stuff that was crazy strong was reported. Could have just kept it to ourselves and gained amazing stats without anyone realizing how much a difference it made at extreme qualities.

It seems like a completely different attitude now and that has driven tons of great players away.