Revolutionists KOSing people on peaceful supergrid.

[Tonkyhonk]

why did vigi get the cape, which was already force-taken by your lot, if YOU had already reported it long before?

I have the same question to devs. They owe us few capes, but still did not give any.
Even Apxe was constantly begging for his cape before they gave it to him.

they dont owe you anything. capes are just a way of showing their appreciations.
"gimme gimme gimme" does not attract them to do you a favour, does it?
(and why do you even need capes when you always kill those who got capes and take from them by force?)
i know Kerrigan sometimes tries to summon loftar in #haven when you guys really need help, like when many of you got accounts stolen due to your own stupidness. i remember loftar being really impressed how you took advantage of the situation afterwards to kill the account thieves and abusers and i remember yelling at him for it =P i hope you dont just bring up anal friend thing like koya always had to.
btw, Apxe is still begging in salem chat for capes he was supposed to have gotten.

I don't disagree with anything you've said here, i do exactly the same with regard to the forum, i don't see how you think that contradicts my statement.

people who have to keep on saying "this is just a game" do not understand it themselves, is my point.

Dev's not having the time to fix bugs due to other projects - again, how is that the fault of the player?

I'm really sorry but i don't see the point in either of your comments and don't see how you think they negate mine. I also agree bugs should be reported, the difference is i wouldn't come down so hard on someone for using them when they are there.

before, devs appreciated players finding bugs and reporting it so that they could fix.
now, devs dont have time at all, and we all know abusers are not someone they want to be bothered with here.
players abusing or exploiting is not doing anything good for this game currently. doing it knowingly is the fault of the player, obviously. if you cannot find the difference, then youre just like a monster mother in japan who yells at her kids teachers for not being able to check their every action at school, blaming it all on teachers but never blaming her own kids.

[LadyGoo]

they dont owe you anything. capes are just a way of showing their appreciations.

Then why do you ask why we do not have capes like they must be given to anyone who reported a bug? I mean you asked why Vigilance has a cape and we do not, doubting we report any bugs? And finally, when I said we've reported several ones and got only 1 cape, you've said they do not owe anything to anyone.

[Tonkyhonk]

they dont owe you anything. capes are just a way of showing their appreciations.

Then why do you ask why we do not have capes like they must be given to anyone who reported a bug? I mean you asked why Vigilance has a cape and we do not, doubting we report any bugs? And finally, when I said we've reported several ones and got only 1 cape, you've said they do not owe anything to anyone.

i did not say you got no capes. i know you have a collection of capes and vigi lost his.
im saying, vigi has got the cape for reporting it first or letting devs be aware of it first.
maybe you did report it before, but devs might not have understood the situation from your reports?
yes i doubt you actually reported, or you didnt make it clear enough to let them know what it was about.
finally, devs never promised a cape per a bug or anything.

[Swarm]

Vigilance is more of a man than either of you two will eve-
Oh wait.

[Patchouli_Knowledge]

The developers are not obligated to give out capes. They do it when they feel like it and sometimes when not even part of the bug policy (for example, Granger getting an appreciation cape for the UPS). Aside that capes are a bit silly in my opinion since they only last as long as they are in your inventory.

[ramones]

I kinda quit playing, but Aracos I love you and Farty

[LadyGoo]

yes i doubt you actually reported, or you didnt make it clear enough to let them know what it was about.
finally, devs never promised a cape per a bug or anything.

So, you doubt that we are reporting them. You also admit they are not given everyone who report bugs, even it was made clear. But still they are the only proof for you.

[Tonkyhonk]

So, you doubt that we are reporting them. You also admit they are not given everyone who report bugs, even it was made clear. But still they are the only proof for you.

it is my personal opinion that i doubt your actions through my experience with you on the forums i only mentioned it because you asked, and i ofc doubt my personal opinion matters here enough to change others views if what im saying is bs.

what im saying repeatedly is that its not convincing that jorb decided to give vigi a cape when he had already recognized that bug. and the raid with the ram bug at oddimonium happened right after vigi got killed and got his cape taken away. those events sum it up to tell something to the public, dont they? or would you call that a trap?
but yes, i am accusing you without any proof, just like you defending yourself without any proof, and you are the one who brought up "we had found that bug in w5" argument.

[Shiro_kun]

I kinda quit playing, but Aracos I love you and Farty

<3333 larva

[LadyGoo]

it is my personal opinion that i doubt your actions through my experience with you on the forums

You're forgetting the fact that I am not only the one in Dis who makes decisions. Sometimes I tell to the public the general opinion or words of the core players, sometimes I am speaking from myself.

jorb decided to give vigi a cape when he had already recognized that bug. and the raid with the ram bug at oddimonium happened right after vigi got killed and got his cape taken away. those events sum it up to tell something to the public, dont they? or would you call that a trap?

Jorb also fixed crossroads in the way they cost a lot. But people do still use them without significant problems for protecting rams, vaults, nodes. It is the fact that koreans were building crs around their q77clay node even after the fix. But developes ignored multiple illigal vaults, or fix the ram bug right after it was reported, or fix server crashing bugs. They are people, they can forget about things or simply have no time as you said.
Also, have no idea how you're trying to link the events with each other and what kind of assumtions you want to see from the public?

-Vigilance was killed over raiding a guy licing nearby to the border of the peace SG. He was given a chance to survive, he'd be let away alive and with all his gear since he is/was a friend of Andreas from Ainran. But Vigilance showed fantastic effprts for not be left alone. In fact, he was helped to break inside of this newb's settlement by the Ainranian.
-Oddimonium, once again, was destroyed mostly because of the rams they placed all around their perimeter. We broke in by building a brickwall pocket in the north of Oddimonium. The ram there dried for 24 hours. And again, the bug was used to broke in the centre, whereas the majority of plots were destroyed legitly by the rams left by the owners of the city.

but yes, i am accusing you without any proof

Indeed.