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Re: Hacked Client

Postby boshaw » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:40 pm

bmjclark wrote:
andreascas wrote:I might be wrong, but when you pm someone, your char turn the same way as the one you pm, if he isn't in a house. Can it be something about that maybe ?


Only if you're within rendering distance of them.

Though, the theory of clients being able to show where someone you have kinned is wouldn't completely surprise me. There were a lot of incidents (pretty much every single time) where we got really close to the person we were tracking and they would hearth (mostly with guys who we thought were RUA). I'm not saying it's the case, and im not accusing them of it, but it was kinda weird =\. It's perfectly possible it was just coincidence.


if by "really" close you mean within draw distance than they probably spotted you on their radar and ported the second they noticed a red dot on it. otherwise idk.

I remember this being brought up in early W5 or so with the whole tracking kin members but i didn't come to any good conclusion. Each Gob can contain a KinInfo class which holds the players position, but loftar has it so it'll only send you the position of said person if a) within draw distance or b)in a party. At that point i gave up on searching for other ways to do it. The chat thing looks nice, but everytime to get their position wouldn't you be giving it away that you're coming for them since you have to actually msg them to make it work ?
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Re: Hacked Client

Postby bmjclark » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:49 pm

Nah i mean like within a few minimaps distance close (guessing distance a bit obviously). It's possible of course that it's coincidence but i dunno.
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Re: Hacked Client

Postby Onionfighter » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:14 pm

I have a theory about this, but will pm loftar instead of posting here.
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Re: Hacked Client

Postby Thijssnl » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:07 pm

Onionfighter wrote:I have a theory about this, but will pm loftar instead of posting here.

Could you PM me as well? I am really curious.
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Re: Hacked Client

Postby Onionfighter » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:13 pm

Well, the reason I didn't post it is because I won't want anyone to know about it. Anyway, loftar has said that my idea shouldn't work.
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Re: Hacked Client

Postby Thijssnl » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:21 pm

Onionfighter wrote:Well, the reason I didn't post it is because I won't want anyone to know about it. Anyway, loftar has said that my idea shouldn't work.

I can promise I am not in a position to hack a client, or whatever it is.
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Re: Hacked Client

Postby secobi » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:24 am

I'm pretty sure I had somebody track me through the kin list in the 1st week of w6. I had just moved my hearth fire after being attacked on my p claim while building a palisade by someone from a settlement who I had just 'duped' on trading (we didn't actually trade anything but I was promising something I didn't have to see what q clay they had palisade'd off) about a day prior. I moved my hearth fire from my p claim to my friend's p claim, full zoom out the entire trip and never having any criminal skills for anybody to track, and within the hour, as my friend had witnessed it and described it, someone with a bear cape, spectacles and boat over their head comes right up to my hearth fire which is placed right beside the gate of his palisade and a couple of his Alt's HFs, says "Hi" and then teleports immediately.

Let me make some various auxiliary points which have led me to my assumption..
0.) I had indirectly told them that I had mutliple claims. This was pseudo-bluff on my part if you will.

1.) This acre clay node they had conquered was litered with extreme amounts of evidence of warfare: tons of HFs scattered in various locations, skeletons, construction signs around HFs and a scattered amount of tiny p claims which also had building signs of some sort around-them/in-them. I checked out the q95 soil node that was posted in Apples for Oranges and this place was reminiscent of that in both lesser and greater ways.

2.) They were in the process of paving off the entire mudflat (about 20,000 tiles worth) to protect their clay node which was said to be q50 at the time of 'duping', perhaps the q was diminished by this time and perhaps they were giving me a lower quote because they were very paranoid, arrogant and a couple non-leaders were acting belligerent towards me when I had approached them (i.e. "who the fuck is this fagget") but either-way they had given me the quote on the clay q after supposedly checking their one-square hole in their palisade. They are still in the process of this today and past half-way through, judging by the entire w5 map this is somewhere between a very infrequent to rare activity for someone(s) to undertake.

3.) They were using ancestral worship to get metal nuggets in order to make spectacles and wooden chests. I assume this because that was the only metal requiring gear I saw and they were later asking me if I had any metals after I had made my insinuation of other claims/assets and after I had been attacked to which I was asking if "our trade was still on" (BS of course).

4.) The players who had the crime skills trespassing, rage (jack shit for UA) and theft also were the only ones who had bear capes.

5.) Everyone from this settlement was talking to each-other through skype and using custom clients with full-zoom always activated. This doesn't insinuate anything directly but it's purely supportive of my point that they do attempt to maximizing their prowess through peripheral software -- the question in this case is what and how much other software?

Ergo, these guys were highly competitive players, not skilled per say (I haven't really given any caveats as to my evaluation of their skill) but very aggressive and determined players who would be the type to use such a -- hmm, how should I put this -- trivial cheat/hack. I hope that the length or the nature of these supporting points does not over-shadow the coincidence of our mysterious visitor because we have only had 1 other person/settlement visit us and that was the people who we share a cave with but were temporarily blocking their access to it with p claims.
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Re: Hacked Client

Postby secobi » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:00 am

ok, well, I've come to find out that it was Odditown whom I was referring to.
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Re: Hacked Client

Postby fallout » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:44 pm

Its Oddimonium, please come by and visit.
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