Leaders of Raided Towns PM Me

[LadyGoo]

There is a big difference between non-pvp SG that I fully support and villages protected by one faction. You didn't give any details about your project and the only funny stuff is saying you can give ppl protection when Dis is the enemy of everyone, your words.
I am not afraid of anything, should I? I am only warning ppl, big words almost always have second meaning. As far as I don't know details I can only think about way to get cheap manpower and easy way to exploitation newbies.
If you have good intention why not to share your ideas here?

According to your words we should attack even our allies
As it was stated in the previous post, everything changes by time. The project is not about us stopping war with biggest factions or killing everything which is not allied with us. It's about giving the neutrals possibility to play for fun and enjoy the game without being really stressed.
As for second meanings in words: there is no need for Dis to do the same things as 'greatest' politics of last worlds. Just because we are strong enough and we do not care much about our public appearance. Generally, nobody will be hurt being involved. We do not ask for lawspeaking/crossroad to the centre of villages/tons of stuff/fighters. Eventually, we were continiously receiveing offers of alliances from other villages. And we refused all of them.

As for ideas, they were already shared. Protection and help to the villages who are not associated to the enemy-factions. Nothing about those villages helping us.

[Koru]

Even if Dis, that doesn't care about public appearance, won't kill protected villages after changing its mind again, there is no way to efficiently protect newbies no matter how strong you are.
Besides I still don't believe for such altruism from your side. Newbies can be used in many ways and I am almost sure that this topic is made to find ppl for some purpose. You still didn't share any specific information and that is suspicious. Why not to announce that Dis won't raid any village from center SG and will hunt everybody who will leave scents there? Simple and clear rules.

[Anon9k]

EWhy not to announce that Dis won't raid any village from center SG and will hunt everybody who will leave scents there? Simple and clear rules.

Oh lol, what stops Dis' members to kill people in the center SG and say they were criminals? I don't know about your experience of interacting with Dis, but mine proves that they can lie about anything to achieve something.

[LadyGoo]

there is no way to efficiently protect newbies no matter how strong you are.

But, who are the major raider factions in the game? Dis and Ainran. If they won't attack a certain village the chances the village will survive increases. If Dis will help to protect the village will be saved (ofc, if they won't do dumb mistakes). Surely, it's hard to save someone being chased while your people are sleeping. But, the chances of getting raided might be decreased dramatically.

Besides I still don't believe for such altruism from your side.

You're forgetting that it is a game played by ordinary people who can feel sorry and know the pain of others. Not neccessarily to help someone waiting something back Well, maybe some adoration will be a quite a payment.

is made to find ppl for some purpose.

I'm sure they are clever enough to not to do what they do not want to.

You still didn't share any specific information and that is suspicious.

What should I share?
I already told:
1. We will protect. Logically this means if they will be under attack our fighters will come to help.
2. We won't attack the village. Should be clear from protection side.
3. Help - depends on the needs of a certain village. I dunno. We have everything. The list of stuff we can help with will be endless =D I need to talk to a village directly to know what do they need.
4. We do not demand anything for the help and defence.
What else can I say? All those points were told before. I just need to talk to leaders directly to design a proper sytem which would suit both sides. You cannot buld a bulding without knowing the context.
Eventually, If a lawspeaker will be interested, he always can PM me and get some info. It won't hurt him, I do not bite

Newbies can be used in many ways and I am almost sure that this topic is made to find ppl for some purpose.

Well, you'd never imagine you're trying to prevent something good and maybe some villages will be destoryed, more players quit.

Why not to announce that Dis won't raid any village from center SG and will hunt everybody who will leave scents there?

The people who hate Dis will do everything to prevent its project like you're doing right now. Once it'll be announced the SG will be a hunting place for the ones who have vaults. So no justice can be brought really. Also, what should we do if... let say Portgas will settle there? I'm sure, even Qant's authority won't be enough to stop our warriors from a carnage.

[Tonkyhonk]

so, this is your move for post-sodom/pande? history repeats itself!
dont care about your intentions, but starting to sound interesting, good luck.

[Koru]

First of all, I do not hate you and my suspicions are theoretical cus I can't see what is in your mind. I just see lack of consistency (raider and newbie supporter at the same time?) and more problems than benefits (smart ppl will create ghost villages to get help from stronger towns or to protect their spots).
Newbie will be raided with or without any protections not cus they are dumb, but cus they have no experience and they do mistakes. What I am saying is no matter how strong you are now, you cannot fully provide any protection.
If hearthlands should be less dangerous, we need to provide less barbaric behavior. I think there should be a ground where other can play in peace, for market and maybe even for some game events. It sounds idyllic and almost impossible cus what we see is less and less respect to each other and tries to humiliate enemies. In hnh players create standards, now they are very low.

[ramones]

Its just a small remark, but if big faction has access or CR inside newbie settlement who can be raided anythime and they say 5 people raiding us, help!!! and 10 people port it, those 5 people = breakfast and the protection was successfull

[BoOty]

Well. The biggest problem is fact that big faction can do almost all what they want. In this way, small peacefull village with good economy (for thier standars) can't exist anymore, because they are potential target for raids. Afterwards they're quiting, after what they have to build thier farms, villages - it all will be destroyed.

Korush suggested market in central grid, something as Nople w3 (if I understand). In my opinion the biggest factions should help in bulid that, protect it against other agrresive players, and recognize it as peacefull area (at the beginning, later peacefull area should be biggest (about 1 sg as someone said). The market should work as Nople, and , for example: Bad person A leave scents in other place, person B take it, A is in the market, looking at barterstands etc. Then, what the person B should do? I'am 99% sure that if person B will be Dis, they will came to market, and kill guy A. And then, all idea fall down. What next?

is made to find ppl for some purpose.

I'm sure they are clever enough to not to do what they do not want to.

You're right, but in gratitude those players will do a lot of thing for you, so can use them to your plans. Fast example: making bricks or what.
In the form you presented I support that project, but I do not belive you'll help them disinterestedly, with no use for your own purposes .

[Smurfette]

What newbies can offer? inexhaustible supplies of foraging curios (bluebells, flotsams, pearls - the best LP) and other randomly spawned things..
primo) if u will help them, how they will stay neutral..?
secundo) i can even understand that maybe u want to help create (breed?) new, power-gaming fractions that could be more challenging opponent than the current, but still ... they are on the lost side. Not because u are the best organized village in HnH, but because u will be knowing all their strengths and weaknesses.

Goo, dont be suprised that we are skeptical, for a long time u (russians) was showing that u can break all rules, just to make all easier and better for u not for others. And yes, i still dont understand your divisions in russian community, so for me, like maybe for almost all ppl not connected with u, this is the rule: all russians are raiders and dont care about other fractions. Maybe this world 6 is made to erase this impression, but still.. Dis started with: " we will be fighting with all", and now u want just to help? How even anyone can be sure that u will not change your mind to this first statement again? If u will be this newbie that just want to play in peace, will u accept help from the no. 1 raiders without any questions ?

[psyknx]

Hi, my village was raided. Id like to request a new village. Thanks.