Lady Goo/Dis/Ravian ( Dis provides no justice. )

[painhertz]

Now you've completely fucking lost me. Help me with what? you just plainly said that Qant is the "supreme leader" of Dis, so what the hell are you on about world 3 and 4?

[jordancoles]

Haven't read any of this thread but the OP yet but,
A day before we'd found out the place belonged to you, Ravian had found scents pointing to inside of your village. We'd planned to kick it down to begin with. The next day your co ords were dropped so we were like lollet'sgo.
Once we got there you'd been raided and whatnot already so, there you go

I don't speak for all of Dis when I say this but:
-You stole from the market
-You killed/stole in the peace grid

And you now expect to live in it like there's nothing wrong? When you went against you system you got rid of any privileges that went along with being in the grid imho. You can say "oh noes my basher was used for evil when I was away" and that's a shame but how were we to know that?

[maze]

Now you've completely fucking lost me. Help me with what? you just plainly said that Qant is the "supreme leader" of Dis, so what the hell are you on about world 3 and 4?

O sorry, hmm.

Qant is a AD vet from w4.
I'm from AD w3.
Trying to say i never crossed paths with the guy to get to know him.

what I was trying to say is I don't really know that dude all to well. or sorry I can't help you I lack the info that you need.

[painhertz]

Haven't read any of this thread but the OP yet but,
A day before we'd found out the place belonged to you, Ravian had found scents pointing to inside of your village. We'd planned to kick it down to begin with. The next day your co ords were dropped so we were like lollet'sgo.
Once we got there you'd been raided and whatnot already so, there you go

I don't speak for all of Dis when I say this but:
-You stole from the market
-You killed/stole in the peace grid

And you now expect to live in it like there's nothing wrong? When you went against you system you got rid of any privileges that went along with being in the grid imho. You can say "oh noes my basher was used for evil when I was away" and that's a shame but how were we to know that?

Let's try this again for the Canadian audience who hasn't quite grasped the English language yet. (Do you live in Quebec?)
prior to 3 days ago the only times I have logged onto haven and Hearth FOR THE LAST 6 WEEKS with ANY character was my main, in my vault, to feed him curios. I know from this fact if no other that you are completely fabricating the existence of ANY scents coming from my town, Second Chapter unless a new black skill has been added whose scents last for 6+ realtime weeks. I don't have to prove this to you or anyone, I simply haven't been playing the fucking game. Now then, on the day 3 or so days ago when i got my basher back from Zmurrel, I went down into the minehole at the north end of my town with said basher and found a HF blocking the tunnel leading to the rest of the cave system (I'd bet my eye teeth said HF belonged to you and was left for spying purposes after you and your PHP buddies wrecked my town.) I bashed that HF leaving vandy scents because at that point I thought that all of you sociopaths that SO enjoy ruining the game for me had stopped playing because of the lag and/or boredom and I logged off my basher with no fire. (No dreams to make a fire because you assholes destroyed everything in my town, remember?) but I figured it was ok, I hadn't even been on the fucking game in almost 2 months.

Now, when Valten summoned and killed my basher, I assumed that he had gotten scents I left at Zmurrels town when i got the items zmurrel owed me out of an LC but after I had dropped town with the character or that zmurrel or archeon had done some crime with him after Archeon stole him. (My sincerest apologies zmurrel, at the time I had forgotten about bashing that damned HF in my caves)

I am really tired of typing shit now but in short, you are lying. The only scents that have led to my town in the last 6 weeks were and ARE the vandy scents in my cave. Grow up for at least 5 minutes and admit that A. You are a dis member and B. You busted some of my shit because that asshole Realak posted my coords. End of story. See this shit? when people wonder how I can rage so much and hate you fuckers in real life it's shit like this. jordan you know damned good and well that you just completely fabricated that "Ravian and I found scents" bullshit and I hope IN REAL LIFE that God punishes you for it. you are truly scum of the Earth.

[jordancoles]

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I never said "Ravian and I" I said Ravian found scents. I'm telling you the information that I have. I saw your co ords on the forums and we both headed over to see if they were legit. When we got there Ravian said, "I had some scents to this place but I didn't know that it was Pain's." Around this same time we'd both realized that the place had already been totally leveled aside from 1 single BW without a CP. We COULD have bubbled a ram but didn't. If we were the "scum of the earth" worthy of being "punished by god" we would have. I picked up the scents and noticed the runestones. Which is how we knew it was ML. And at that point tbh, I really didn't care. So direct your rage at the real perps. Also, lol'd at you thinking I left a HF in a random cave hoping you'd stumble upon it and break it.

[Baaacccooonnn]

Kamikazii is not apart of Mirror Lake.

[Qant]

Qant is a AD vet from w4.

This is wrong. I played in W4 but I never was a member of AD.
I am, indeed, is LS of Dis. Though I wouldn't really call myself "supreme leader" of it.

#1 The main culprits who destroyed my town "aren't" a part of Dis and as such whether they had "reason" to do so doesn't come into the discussion about whether they should be punished or not for their actions. Also? They not being Dis members I fail to see what any apologies to them would have to do with whether or not I receive justice for my town being destroyed in the Peace Grid which is "supposedly" policed by Dis and it's members.

But they are part of village allied to Dis, which is sort of similar. Anyway, afaik, the LS of said village is planning to punish those perpetrators in some way on behalf of our request. But the point you seem to miss is that, even though you are the aggrieved party, you have no word in deciding what kind of punishment we should apply. In short, it is entirely our problem from this point. Also, as I believe, it was never stated otherwise, so you either agree to it or move on. Trying to ask us to deal "justice" on how you see it fit is sort of pointless from the beginning.

Again, let's not forget that some percentage of the destruction of my town was done by Jordan Coles by his own admission who is a member of Dis and the LAST person who should be going around the Peace Grid wrecking people's shit. As I said when I DID answer your question, he should be exiled from Dis...

So, what exactly did Coles destroyed in your town? Because he is saying that your place was mostly destroyed before him, and therefore why exactly do you insist on us exiling him over it? Besides, despite your opinion, I have no reason to not believe Ravian when he says that he had scents from this SG pointing to your place several times. Especially him being one of the few people who actually do track various scents from said SG.

and for going counter to the VERY PURPOSE of the supposed PEACE Zone. As is? Nothing will happen to him or his characters, AT ALL, because in reality you people might talk a good game about having a "Peace Grid" and giving justice to any wronged members but in reality you are a bunch of fucking Nazi's and the "Peace Grid" is Dachau.

It seems you are making wrong assumption on the said purpose of the supposed PEACE Zone. You see, no one ever meant of "giving justice to any wronged members". Nor ever was meant that we make obligation of patrolling the grid. Nor ever was meant that we make obligation of tracking every single scent out there. Nor ever was meant that being in this SG somehow magically protect from every single raider in the world and guarantees peaceful life. We may do any of things above as much as one wish to, and some of us indeed do spare their time on those activities. Yet. you can't demand any of above.
Now, the only thing we made obligation of is to not attack anyone living in this grid without really good reason. Which is sort of what happened to you. Yet, the ones who force this obligation on us and controls its fulfillment are ourselves again. Not you, not public opinion, not anyone else. We merely informed others about it. Whether one accept it as it is, or ignore, or laugh at it - is one own choice. And, lets face it, judging by your overall tone in this thread. except maybe OP, you came here for mockery and prolonging your flame wars , not to really solve the situation in any constructive manner. Having said all that, we did discuss your incident among us, and made some actions to prevent similar occasions in the future.

Unlike myself, you can provide no proof of this because it's a complete fucking fabrication. With the exception of the "explained 6 times on these forums by myself" run in with Ravian, and "my defending myself from Jordan Coles who built his name on starting shit with Painhertz" I've not bothered Dis or any of it's members ever in the history of Earth, Sol System, Milky Way. other then lady Goo, Jordan Coles and Ravian... (and I guess now, you?) I DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN DIS.

Indeed, I don't plan to provide extensive and conclusive proof of that statement. Partly because it would be really tiresome and mostly because it will be futile anyway. I have little to no doubt that you sincerely believe that you didn't offend anyone in anyway without good reason, and yet it still doesn't make it true from our point of view. This very thread is actually fine example of it. Also generally, not knowing that someone is in Dis, isn't really an excuse of being a dick to him. The point of that statement was to make you aware of how we seeing you in general. And that image is of a dick person, though there could be personal variations of opinion. Whether you don't think of yourself as one, or believe that it is undeserved, or what not is almost irrelevant.

Even were that true? And it's not..... It's still not grounds for PHP/Mirror Lake and/or Jordan coles to destroy my town in the PEACE Zone. I'm truly starting to wonder if you guys understand the concept of the word "peace" and this is coming from an American, one of the least peaceful cultures in the history of Humanity.

As I said in the previous post, from my point view, that was not reason enough.
Arguing what is the entire concept of the word "peace" is pointless, because it was merely chosen as a somewhat fitting label. One can draw a lot of implications from said concept of the word "peace" which obviously were not intended nor meant from the very beginning.

[Avu]

So someone actually bought the whole safe zone bullshit? I guess a sucker is born every day.

[Kkkey2]

Kamikazii is not apart of Mirror Lake.

Kamikazii = Titan = ML

[jordancoles]

Kamikazii is not apart of Mirror Lake.

Kamikazii = Titan = ML

Kamikazii = Titan = Quit playing