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Re: Latest news: A.D.

Postby loftar » Wed May 22, 2013 6:34 am

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dagrimreefah wrote:No, I'm not surprised about that. I'm surprised how you handled it.

Then I'm sure you will consider the precedent properly set now. ^^

By the way, that goes for you brute-forcers, too. If I ever do manage to find out who you are, then by all means, do consider the precedent set.
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Re: Latest news: A.D.

Postby jordancoles » Wed May 22, 2013 6:37 am

loftar wrote:
loftar wrote:
dagrimreefah wrote:No, I'm not surprised about that. I'm surprised how you handled it.

Then I'm sure you will consider the precedent properly set now. ^^

By the way, that goes for you brute-forcers, too. If I ever do manage to find out who you are, then by all means, do consider the precedent set.

Port me over if you find um :)
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Re: Latest news: A.D.

Postby ShamanTheBear » Wed May 22, 2013 6:50 am

know. actually I did not hurt and did not even unpleasant. Just this act to the massive theft accounts very stupid ... Those who did so were afraid of resistance that killed my char a few times ... And esle think so, why do such garbage? because when there is no enemy, and there is no point in playing. Is not it? So the game will be like a stupid browser games in the genre - * Farm Frenzy *.

Although it is my sincere hope Loftar adequate solution to rollback...
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Re: Latest news: A.D.

Postby borka » Wed May 22, 2013 6:56 am

you need to play CoD ...
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Re: Latest news: A.D.

Postby tempwad » Wed May 22, 2013 7:42 am

loftar wrote: The nuking was mere personal revenge for that which had already transpired by then.


ofc it is your server, and you could do anything that you wanna do with him. but personal revenge of admin sounds so silly and childish.

my opinion - in the game should be a some kind of rules, that people should follow. rules against stealing accounts, against ddos, and against bugs using too. published rules. punishments must be consequences of breaking rules, not a revenges.

no, i'm not from a.d. and not defending them. and please, please don't revenge me :P
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Re: Latest news: A.D.

Postby jordancoles » Wed May 22, 2013 7:45 am

tempwad wrote:
loftar wrote: The nuking was mere personal revenge for that which had already transpired by then.


ofc it is your server, and you could do anything that you wanna do with him. but personal revenge of admin sounds so silly and childish.

my opinion - in the game should be a some kind of rules, that people should follow. rules against stealing accounts, against ddos, and against bugs using too. published rules. punishments must be consequences of breaking rules, not a revenges.

no, i'm not from a.d. and not defending them. and please, please don't revenge me :P

1. Don't fuck up the server
2. Don't steal accounts
3. Don't make it so that it's impossible for you to die/be summoned
4. Don't bruteforce passwords
5. Don't be a faggot
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Re: Latest news: A.D.

Postby TeckXKnight » Wed May 22, 2013 8:01 am

DDoS's and account theft are pretty universally illegal. Saying there have to be specific rules against them is like saying you need to tell players not to murder each other in real life. It's sort of assumed you're not allowed to break real life laws.

As for the illegal-vaults, everyone has known they can and will be nuked whenever the dev's like and that they are not generally welcome since w3. We saw punishment and precedent for severe bug abuse in w4.
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Re: Latest news: A.D.

Postby Amanda44 » Wed May 22, 2013 8:16 am

loftar wrote:
dagrimreefah wrote:No, I'm not surprised about that. I'm surprised how you handled it.

Then I'm sure you will consider the precedent properly set now. ^^


So, erm, don't have villagers? :?

loftar wrote:
dagrimreefah wrote:Yeah, can't build any big towns in this game because their might be a chance that one person out of the 100 will DoS or some other shit

Shall I assume, by the way, that you are (were?) a member of A.D.?


Well, I am not a member of AD, and everyone knows who I usualy support in most instances, so there is no bias of any kind, but, whilst I understand that it was an unacceptable thing to do (the server DoS) and your frustration at an afternoon redirected - what I don't understand is why you chose to punish AD as a whole, allowing it to be raided by their arch enemies and destroying the work of the people who live there, does seem a touch unfair on them. Esp as some of them had just lost chars due to stolen accounts.

Why not just nuke the chars and all the belongings of those directly responsible?

I don't have villagers but this is now just another reason not to, you can't possibly know in advance who may be likely to do something like this, why would I want to risk it? There is enough mistrust and suspicion in this game, pretty soon hnh will either be one large faction or individual hermits - neither is ideal.

At the end of the day, I just know I would be most upset and think it was most unfair if my village and my community got nuked because of one or two people doing something I knew nothing about and didn't agree with. It does seem a bit excessive to punish the whole village imo and I find it worrying.

Still, if we have to have gods I supose it's only right that we are a) scared of them and b) can't be expected to understand their wisdom. :(

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Re: Latest news: A.D.

Postby APXEOLOG » Wed May 22, 2013 8:20 am

As i know loftar logged in to the character who DOS'ed server and saw village with unbreakable walls. Bugs consentration was too big to let them live in peace so he nuked some parts of walls and some plots (not all, 3 or 4 only) and also nuked our Dis Embassy. I think you should be ready for such thing if you build bugwalls in your city. That's all.
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Re: Latest news: A.D.

Postby GrapefruitV » Wed May 22, 2013 9:44 am

dagrimreefah wrote:
loftar wrote:Oh please. Are you intending to persuade me that the rest of AD had no idea about what transpired?

I'm not trying to persuade you of anything?

But in fact yes that is true, most of AD had no clue since at any given time most of AD is logged off. :/

are you implying, that the good part of AD would stop that scum and exile him, if you would find out before loftar?
why you didnt stop him few days ago, when he crashed server with barter abusing? you prolly were sleeping or working, but why didnt you exile him after?
why you didnt stop half of your villages from cliffjumps, bugrams and illegal vaults in the past? you 100% know about this ones
I already told, that I feel sorry for all the nice people in AD, you didnt deserve it, but "we didnt know we are living with disgusting scum" is a bad excuse, even though few of you probably really believed in that
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