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Re: Marine Down

Postby DDDsDD999 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:22 am

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Re: Marine Down

Postby LadyV » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:38 am

crfernald,

Diverting the conversation to include other tragedy's throughout Human history and assuming it would be alright to use them misses the whole point. You took images of that horrible time used them as references of how to play in this game. You evoked the language of Lebensraum and referred to the Nazi's as god's of death. Your very profile image is the sign used above some concentration camps. Then someone assumed it was acceptable and supported you.

My words stand! Your inclusion of real life images and actions in a game crosses a line of decency. There is no moral high ground, only one of equality. If you place yourself above others you take the very path your images represent. You may not like my words or stand but it is not acceptable to conjure up such things of hate and then to act all innocent as if its alright to dismiss their implications. Humanity struggles enough to maintain the lessons it learns without its images and words being hijacked because someone thinks its cool to include in a game forum.

Hate is never right. Senseless violence is never right.
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Re: Marine Down

Postby painhertz » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:59 am

"Hate is never right. Senseless violence is never right."

Tits or GTFO

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Re: Marine Down

Postby Kanshisha » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:53 am

LadyV wrote:crfernald,
Diverting the conversation to include other tragedy's throughout Human history and assuming it would be alright to use them misses the whole point. ... Hate is never right. Senseless violence is never right.


While the Nazi party will probably always be remembered as villains, Nazis usually make great reoccurring villains (Hellboy, Hellsing, Indiana Jones I & III, Inglorious Bastards, Various WWII Games, etc.), the Holocaust itself will fade away into history and be replaced in significance by some other more recent great tragedy. Life is short and people are quick to forget or overlook events when it suits them. Hell, there are idiots out there that refuse to believe that the Holocaust ever happened, even with the overwhelming amount of physical & photographic evidence, and survivor accounts to prove otherwise. People are stupid like that, they live in there own ignorant little world oblivious to the truth. My point is tragedies are part of humanity, there will always be some homicidal, genocidal, terrorist leader guy that's doing bad things to lots of people.

I respect your view LadyV but I got to say, CRF has a point with the tragic references.
Also, it's just a fucking game, and this is the forum for that game, it's your choice weather or not you take what's said here way to seriously.
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Re: Marine Down

Postby Oddity » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:51 am

LadyV wrote:My words stand! Your inclusion of real life images and actions in a game crosses a line of decency.

Blow it out your cunt.

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Re: Marine Down

Postby Endora » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:35 pm

Oddity wrote:
LadyV wrote:My words stand! Your inclusion of real life images and actions in a game crosses a line of decency.

Blow it out your cunt.

:lol: No kidding, you're pandering to completely the wrong audience here.
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Re: Marine Down

Postby OneofTen » Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:46 pm

LadyV wrote:crfernald,

Diverting the conversation to include other tragedy's throughout Human history and assuming it would be alright to use them misses the whole point. You took images of that horrible time used them as references of how to play in this game. You evoked the language of Lebensraum and referred to the Nazi's as god's of death. Your very profile image is the sign used above some concentration camps. Then someone assumed it was acceptable and supported you.

My words stand! Your inclusion of real life images and actions in a game crosses a line of decency. There is no moral high ground, only one of equality. If you place yourself above others you take the very path your images represent. You may not like my words or stand but it is not acceptable to conjure up such things of hate and then to act all innocent as if its alright to dismiss their implications. Humanity struggles enough to maintain the lessons it learns without its images and words being hijacked because someone thinks its cool to include in a game forum.

Hate is never right. Senseless violence is never right.



+1 i agree with everything u wrote and as somebody who has seen this profile image sign with my own eyes in "Dachau", i must say its sad to see how many people are lightly with this topic..
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Re: Marine Down

Postby min_the_fair » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:03 pm

LadyV wrote:Hate is never right. Senseless violence is never right.


Oh dear. Hello and welcome to Haven and Hearth. It's a hive of scum and villainy, the forums actually slightly less so than than the game itself. It is really highly unlikely that you are ever going to win anything here.

Things it is probably worth noting about crfernald include:
- he seems to be somewhat intelligent
- he's doing it on purpose (the profile pic is new, and I'm also hoping it's not going to stay long, but there's not exactly anything that can be done about it)
- if he's managed to wind you up, it looks like it's worked
- he's from one of the countries of the former Yugoslavia (sorry, I'm not putting much effort into my forum stalking here so can't be bothered to look up which one) so probably has more direct experience of the consequences of nationalistic hatred & etc than most of the people here

Things about NaoWhut:
- he's basically Chaotic Evil. Of course he's going to agree with things that annoy people. For all I know he has another account that he uses to post helpful things in How Do I, but this is not it.

Things about HnH:
There's a pretty high chance that sooner or later, you will become a victim of senseless violence (probably sooner, tbh). If this is likely to bother you, it's probably better to leave now.
There is no in-game moderation at all, which basically means that as well as killing you, people are free to come and pave obscenities all over your lawn until either you kill them or one of you gets bored of grassing over it/repaving. Hasn't happened to me yet this world, but it could do at any time.
I would really like to see stats of the numbers of people in this game with stupid names like LordOfDeath or PKGod89 as compared to other games. I have a feeling that the fact that you can be killed by sheep leads to the people with stupid names dying off quicker. Also, having **VampyreQueen** cutting trees and milking cows gets a bit silly, too (unless that's the look you're going for). Sorry, getting a bit offtopic there.

In conclusion:
While I agree in principle with what you wrote, this is really not the place. Most of the internet places I spend time are pretty much safe spaces for most people. This is just not one of them. It's not a safe space for anyone (except maybe, maybe, in How Do I, sometimes).
Run away now if you value your sanity. Or, accept that this is not a safe space, and deal with it.
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Re: Marine Down

Postby Gray » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:40 pm

min_the_fair wrote:
LadyV wrote:Hate is never right. Senseless violence is never right.

In conclusion:
While I agree in principle with what you wrote, this is really not the place.


Might not be the place but its still fun to read.
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Re: Marine Down

Postby OneofTen » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:42 pm

min_the_fair wrote:bullshit



yeah next thing is somebody comes along and post how he fucks his own daughter and most people like you will be ... oh yeah thats so super funny and cool ... yeah... u sir a big retard nobody was complaing about any ingame things its all about a dickhead thats posts this nazi crap...
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