Alay butthurt

[Kaios]

Well said. I don't know if you've ever said anything before that I can agree with but this moment is certainly one of them.

[LadyGoo]

Well said. I don't know if you've ever said anything before that I can agree with but this moment is certainly one of them.

It all seems to be smooth and etc when he is taking things out of the context.

He says the war was not started by A.D. Which is apparently not true.
Back to the last world one of members of Dis gave his account to Koya since they were building an island vault. In the beginning of the world 6 Koya logged in on this account, make screenshots of Dis. Then he sent them to El Diablo and said that we have a spy among our members who leak the information to Ainran. Soon we figured out what was going on: He tried to destroy Dis, make us suspect each other, exile our members and etc. friendly of Koya, isn not it? This was the point when the people in Dis who still felt good about Koya turned away from him.
In W5 I also remember him saying that he will be killing us in W6.

The hearth secret brute force started when Koya, again, happened to know one of the accounts of our guys. This time the character on this account was one of the top ua and etc. it was drowned, everything on the plot was smashed, the einher was trying to force summon enemies into the city, but it was killed by the plotmate of the guy who's account was stolen. The guy went to the point that he stopped playing. And again, want to remind you how WF guys stole so many account, killed so many characters using the key stealer. Statuing everything on the way of our rams when we were trying to siege A.D. Legitly, legions of alts and etc.
Also, I tend to think that most of the people found you redicilous saying that bug ramming by you is not a crime or abuse, but a justice. The excuse you have made was simply:
Purgatorio raided some village witha bugram, so you revenges them. The fact is that you did not provide any proofs or even the name of the village which was said to be raided by a bugram. Eventually, you broke inside of Purg vault and used the cr inside of their city. Well, fine. But afterwards you called Ainran to help you with raiding Purgatorio simply not knowing that Ainran are friends with them. They killed your people as a result. You were spotted in bug ramming, already passed the limits and Ainran would be most likely to bugram you as a reply. 'So, hell, why the fuck not?!' typical human logic was used. You decided to go further and make the strike first.
Does it sound unlogical only for me that instead of ramming Ainran or Dis you started revenge Purgatorio?

As for the community and creation and etc, we started the market which could be enjoyed even by our enemies. Polen Horde had it batters there, as well as Portgas was let inside without being killed. Yes, we had the profit from it as well as other people did. However, your people were trying to destroy it even it was a peaceful project.
Now, one more project. The Piece Grid where we were trying to protect people, althought we did not guarantee anything. Your people were the only ones who were slaughtering the hermits there. We did not ask for anything, nor for food, nor for pearls or gold. So your people were just trying to dominate over the innocents since they could not harm us. Release their pain, I guess?
Also, just neutral villages, friends of our allies and even allies received messages from you who said that all of them will be killed if they will continue being friends to us. Most of those villages never provided us with any kind of free supplements (we only buy from allies or give out stuff usually) or ever fought for us. Again, assaulting harmless ones.

So, I think you aren't all about being peaceful at all. You seem to be OK only with the people who are on your side only, but claim otherwise.

The major difference between us Koya is that we do not pretend to be neither good or bad.

[factnfiction101]

The hearth secret brute force started when Koya, again, happened to know one of the accounts of our guys.

So you're admitting to brute forcing HS, wow. If I had any control over this game I would ban you and destroy everything you have.

[GrapefruitV]

The major difference between us ...

there is no any
you are top bullshit generators of hearthlands

[Arcanist]

stuff

you make it sound as if you are a protector of innocent hearthlings, whom just want to farm and prosper.



tbh I'm surprised that you even have 40 people, that's what maybe 20% of the total playerbase

[jordancoles]

The hearth secret brute force started when Koya, again, happened to know one of the accounts of our guys.

So you're admitting to brute forcing HS, wow. If I had any control over this game I would ban you and destroy everything you have.

It's pretty common knowledge, though it was before my time in Dis.

[jordancoles]

The major difference between us ...

there is no any
you are top bullshit generators of hearthlands

Our propaganda is strong, though Melsonia's will always be the strongest.

Also, is ER not allied/a part of A.D or am I wrong in that?
ER left a ram at a friend of mine's village that Koya specifically said he would leave alone because of its neutrality. On top of that, it was placed against a palisade with 2 double BWs on the inside so burgramming seemed to be their plan.

[Koya]

He says the war was not started by A.D. Which is apparently not true.
Back to the last world one of members of Dis gave his account to Koya since they were building an island vault. In the beginning of the world 6 Koya logged in on this account, make screenshots of Dis. Then he sent them to El Diablo and said that we have a spy among our members who leak the information to Ainran. Soon we figured out what was going on: He tried to destroy Dis, make us suspect each other, exile our members and etc. friendly of Koya, isn not it? This was the point when the people in Dis who still felt good about Koya turned away from him.
In W5 I also remember him saying that he will be killing us in W6.

I never loged in to make any screenshots by any people I was with in W5. And people who was making vault with me, didn't gived me passwords from their accounts, and I never used them that way. Screenshots was got from other sources.
I remember verry well how that dialog started, you were discussing to kick ass everybody, including new AD I will make. And I answered that I will use any methods to make it not happen and damage in answer, including making insiders in your village or allies.
Getting together with Ainran with people that was there, was terrible idea. And way you wanted to play was against way I go. I knew other people that was hunted by Dis because they choose their way.

The hearth secret brute force started when Koya, again, happened to know one of the accounts of our guys. This time the character on this account was one of the top ua and etc. it was drowned, everything on the plot was smashed, the einher was trying to force summon enemies into the city, but it was killed by the plotmate of the guy who's account was stolen. The guy went to the point that he stopped playing.

I never used Unknowns account and didn't knew password from it. But know all details of that situation. Axucs that was in AD for a long time (w3-4-5), was having small village with a 66q clay spot. You guys killed his vilalgers and destroyed everything. And it happened to be, that he had an shared account with Unknown. At his proposal to summon enemies inside Dis I refused. Axucs quit too, that was his last door slam. That was personal so I didn't stopped him.

And again, want to remind you how WF guys stole so many account, killed so many characters using the key stealer.

How did you put AD into that ? or Winterfall ? we both know people that was into that. And that time, they weren't in Winterfall, they were just fighting against you, like many.

Statuing everything on the way of our rams when we were trying to siege A.D. Legitly, legions of alts and etc.

If we were about to protect with statues, they will stand closer, and you didn't get in. Point there was to prevent you from extending at larger area, and make you fight in tight space, where you cannot use quantity factor. And in AD we didn't used alt walls to protect ourself.

Also, I tend to think that most of the people found you redicilous saying that bug ramming by you is not a crime or abuse, but a justice. The excuse you have made was simply:
Purgatorio raided some village witha bugram, so you revenges them. The fact is that you did not provide any proofs or even the name of the village which was said to be raided by a bugram. Eventually, you broke inside of Purg vault and used the cr inside of their city. Well, fine. But afterwards you called Ainran to help you with raiding Purgatorio simply not knowing that Ainran are friends with them. They killed your people as a result. You were spotted in bug ramming, already passed the limits and Ainran would be most likely to bugram you as a reply. 'So, hell, why the fuck not?!' typical human logic was used. You decided to go further and make the strike first.
Does it sound unlogical only for me that instead of ramming Ainran or Dis you started revenge Purgatorio?

I knew some people there in Purg that I didn't wanted to hurt, knew it too late, but still scents was showing there, as I understand Ainran was there sometime with HS or somebody from them was helping them. We didn't knew Ainran was with them, that was fail of course. As you know we cannot be bugrammed. Only walljump can work, but not for long, soon it will be impossible too. So your opinions on striking first have no sence, we have all the time we need.
My conclusion on it is : you bugrammed, you used mineholes to destroy resourse spots, you used crossroads to siedge villages, you bruteforced hearthsecrets, using trolls to break walls, and God know how many other shit that I didn't get to know. You are bug abusing and using exploits not to get your profit, you use it to damage play of people that plays legitly and make them quit. So why do you await that others will fight legitly against you ?

As for the community and creation and etc, we started the market which could be enjoyed even by our enemies. Polen Horde had it batters there, as well as Portgas was let inside without being killed. Yes, we had the profit from it as well as other people did. However, your people were trying to destroy it even it was a peaceful project.

I remember werry well how you "removed" from sale gold that one guy was selling there for cheaper price. So don't get too far into good side thing. You were geting profit. And from AD only one person was in AfO fight, to support people fighting against you in first point, not to destroy trade point.

Now, one more project. The Piece Grid where we were trying to protect people, althought we did not guarantee anything. Your people were the only ones who were slaughtering the hermits there. We did not ask for anything, nor for food, nor for pearls or gold. So your people were just trying to dominate over the innocents since they could not harm us. Release their pain, I guess?

Nobody from AD was killing innocent in Peace grid. We had other targets. Exclusions are people that was leaving scents in our grid.

Also, just neutral villages, friends of our allies and even allies received messages from you who said that all of them will be killed if they will continue being friends to us. Most of those villages never provided us with any kind of free supplements (we only buy from allies or give out stuff usually) or ever fought for us. Again, assaulting harmless ones.
So, I think you aren't all about being peaceful at all. You seem to be OK only with the people who are on your side only, but claim otherwise.

We didn't attacked or hurt neutral villages, many of them exist in our grid till these days, we just let them be, didn't claimed all grid, so all can use mountains and rivers, we didn't killed foreiginer curio-gathering alts. So people can co-exist. And more of that, we were doing same thing as AD did in W3-4, we helped undeveloped with clay and tools, we evacuated ones that was sieged by Dis and Ainran. And we did that not for future profit, or any help from them, just so they will survive. I don't need political showing here, I can only say that when in W6 AD was in hard times, people that got help in previous help from me, and from AD, was kind to do same to us this world. And good things that was done by us in this world, will be repayed later. You couldn't change the fact that hundreds of players was helped by us and destroyed by you.
You are wrong, we are peaceful people that was forced to war. We are helping people that got assaulted by stronger, and fighting ones that use your help to attack them. I helped people that not only got attacked by Dis or Ainran, I was helping ones that was attacked by WF, or PH, or ER, or WoR... it didn't matters who attacked, they needed help and recived it.

The major difference between us Koya is that we do not pretend to be neither good or bad.

Major difference between us, that I don't pretend that other players here are slaves and second type people, that must fall to my legs and beg for mercy. I don't pursuit people that writing anything against us, same as didn't send off people that ask for help that I can provide.
I accept other player not as character, more as person that use character, and when killing somebody, its not just fun, its you damaging other person, by stealing his time.

P.S. Time will set everything on their places.

[Koya]

stuff

you make it sound as if you are a protector of innocent hearthlings, whom just want to farm and prosper.



tbh I'm surprised that you even have 40 people, that's what maybe 20% of the total playerbase

Its lower right now, lags make some of them off game, sometimes I wasn't loging on few days a row, so bad they were.

Also, is ER not allied/a part of A.D or am I wrong in that?
ER left a ram at a friend of mine's village that Koya specifically said he would leave alone because of its neutrality. On top of that, it was placed against a palisade with 2 double BWs on the inside so burgramming seemed to be their plan.

People that don't kill each other because of same more stronger enemy they both have its common sence. Still we don't have control over each other. I personally don't like some people there

[factnfiction101]

The hearth secret brute force started when Koya, again, happened to know one of the accounts of our guys.

So you're admitting to brute forcing HS, wow. If I had any control over this game I would ban you and destroy everything you have.

It's pretty common knowledge, though it was before my time in Dis.

I didn't know X( and I see your join date. I joined in April of this year, I guess I've been playing for 7 months. I still feel like a nub tho

Sorry to distract people from LadyGoo and Koya's chat