The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby tempwad » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:47 am

jorb wrote:Who do I for that matter nuke? Portgas? The village he lived in? Everyone on his buddy list? Every account that has been logged into from what I believe to be his IP-address (potentially including stolen accounts)? Nearby villages and settlements? Russians in general?

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.


no russians please, this thiefs's attack was primary targetted on russians.
Every account that has been logged into from what I believe to be his IP-address (potentially including stolen accounts)?
this sounds good.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby ramones » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:10 pm

Every IP from where login has occured to his account and his alternative accounts.
All other accounts connected to his account with same or diferent IP loging (since those that have access to his account can be connected to this foolishness).

Its really not that hard. Like Nike figured it long time ago, Just do it.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby CodenameB » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:29 pm

I'd be more concerned about nuking the village to be honest. Who cares if a character dies? That happens all the time, especially if you are a raider.

Considering the stolen accounts were found in his village, the other villagers gave tacit approval of his plan, if not outright participated in it. None of them reported it, nor as far as I can tell have tried to make amends or even apologize.

I think "You'd better make damn sure no one in your village is stealing passwords or you suffer too" is a good message to send out. No reason to play wack-a-mole with cheaters when you can just raze the whole thing and make the players moderate their allies.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby quasist » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:32 pm

Let's give portugas a new name : "Pidoras"
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby Spiff » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:17 pm

painhertz wrote:Phishing for passwords using an engineered client can't be easy and by definition only works until it's found out.


Phishing for passwords with an engineered client is really really easy. Just saying.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby painhertz » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:24 pm

Spiff wrote:
painhertz wrote:Phishing for passwords using an engineered client can't be easy and by definition only works until it's found out.


Phishing for passwords with an engineered client is really really easy. Just saying.



You would have to add features to said client that would make people want to DL it in the first place, and once it has/had been outed as a passlogger, no one would get it again. Eventually (In a very short time span) everyone would just stick with Ender's or the other known to be legit clients. All in all, a bunch of work just to gain access to characters that may be subpar of what you can create yourself. Just because I sum things up in one sentence doesn't mean I don't know what i'm talking about. kthxbye.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby tempwad » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:39 pm

quasist wrote:Let's give portugas a new name : "Pidoras"


it is not only Portagas, at least 3 people did this together:
Portagas, Loinz, Dryusha. probably more.

full story is here: http://havenandhearth.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=4866
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby Potjeh » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:43 pm

I'd ban the account thieves' accounts and IPs *in the game* so they effectively lose their accounts, an eye for an eye and all that jazz. And sure, they could just use proxies, but that's fine, their victims could also just create new accounts.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby Oddity » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:40 pm

Potjeh wrote:they could just use proxies

Most people's ISPs give them a dynamic address, and all they have to do is reset their modem or something like that to get a new one. Also, since that same IP address would eventually be allocated to somebody else, you could cause someone else on the same ISP to be mysteriously temporarily banned one day.

Banning by IP address is a ridiculous idea.
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Re: The Fate of Account Thieves (Portgas&co)

Postby Kaios » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:15 pm

Just create a statue dedicated to Portgas, Account Bandit of World 6.

Arksu got one for essentially creating the bot era that was world 4 so I assume you are in the business of rewarding players for poor behaviour anyways.

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