Where we reveal all of Pandes dirty secrets...

[kohg]

who cares, thread actually turned into something worth reading. keep it coming.

[bmjclark]

From what we've been told, most of the odditown guys didn't want to be our allies anyways.

Of course not, nobody wants to be allies with faggots.

K. Oh btw, are you guys gonna man up and show up at our door step / track us online? Or just gonna wait till world 7?

[burgingham]

W5 was W5. W6 is W6.

You used to be part of a group that would raid Avu. Should he be mad at you about what happened in the past still? This is a game, don't take it personal. People that we played with one minute may be enemies the next.

But no, you can't accept that. Kappa and DatOneGuy left your little group in W4 and W5 respectively and you consider them traitors, yet you forget it was Kappa who gave his character to Sodom for our brickbasher project. DatOneGuy was one of the most hardworking and loyal members of Sodom and Pandemonium, and you told us in W5 village chat one day that DoG was worth more than all of us. Not too long later, you got into an argument with him and kicked him out (although he really just left the channel himself, heh) for "undermining" you. Because DatOneGuy wanted to continue Sodom's official policy of using hearth vaults if you were going to senselessly grief and murder people.

Speaking of harming people that were part of your village in previous world, you didn't have any problems with me and Klaue taking over W4 Sodom camp, naming it 'Wayneville' and murdering some people in it. You would have even supplied us, and you specifically selected me and Klaue to lead the project, although you were going to run Kitsune with your girlfriend.

I do not despise you, burg, but you sometimes overreact, and this alienates all of your friends and allies.

I may be nothing to you but treacherous scum now, and you probably believe that I was A.D.'s spy. If you insist on me being the bad guy, burg, I can.

I cannot even be bothered to answer in detail to that since it is just complete and utter bullshit. I never considered DoG (who pulled a very shocking prank on us there) a traitor and Kappa neither. DoG left over a single argument we had. If I had done the same for every time Avu and I argued...damn there would have never been any Sodom or Pande at all.

W4 was something you did on your own. I suggested to do something like it half jokingly and didn't really care at all at that time (which was probably not ok, yeah), because I was rolling with Miu's group.

Thank you for not despising me...huh? In this case my former allies alienated me and not the other way around. All my other relationships to people are still quite ok last time I checked.

The most incoherent thing about your ramblings there is the spy thing though. Everytime you do something stupid you come to me asking me if I hate you now, if I think you are a spy blabla. Repeatedly I told you that I don't. You are the one insisting on you being the bad guy, but yeah with your latest actions you really alienated yourself from your former group and not just me. Go back to w3 Sarchi and everyone is cool with you. The drama queen you have become nobody likes though.

Look at that. Now I actually did bother to answer you in detail.

[Sarchi]

I do not have much time to argue with you over this, but I distinctly remember you saying "Fucking traitor" when Nightmare left the channel when he joined A.D. and when Kappa left the channel as well.

I also have some other unrelated information that could be used to harm your reputation, but I do not have much interest in a mudslinging contest. People know that you aren't as rosy as you'd have people believe. I don't want to see you spewing bullshit about people in a game that you don't even play anymore. I'm not denying that I betrayed Odditown. I betrayed the fuck out of them. And yes, I realize that murdering two of my own villagers and revealing the [top secret] identity of Mukumuku was a mistake. Everything that I did of that nature I felt bad for afterwards and would change if I could. But I can't, so I move forward and adapt.

And yes. I always asked you those questions because I didn't want to piss you off. I really cared about the town I was in and didn't want to be tossed out because I just happened to piss you off. I know you can have a bit of a temper.

You said that I was permanently kicked out of your group forever, and you say that I don't have any friends anymore. You are wrong. As soon as I got kicked out, several people offered me a place to stay. Such is the benefit of having many connections and friends of my own. Even some Sodomites supported my actions against Odditown, but of course, I'll never say their names because I know you well enough and know what you'd do.

And drama is exactly what you're trying to do right now, so don't give me that bullshit.

[rye130]

Why do you have to prove Avu right? Can I not be right for once...

I fed them in w5, give them chars, equip, rings, harbor them in my town. How do they pay me back? By backstabbing some of the very same people who made them what they were in w5 the moment they turn their backs.

Nobody would have ever known what this little hole in the ground called Ainran was until the day I made you famous. But I guess there really is no sense of companionship or honor in any of you.

In all the time you famous PvPers were in Pandes service you did not manage to kill a single Russian I wanted you to kill. Yet I kept paying you. You kept dying, I kept re-equipping... Then you killed some fellow village members with the help of Sarchi. Repeat it in this new world again with Sarchi betraying his own and helping you (because without some backstabber from the inside you wouldn't have done shit).

I am bitterly disappointed. Good thing I don't play and there are not really many people I value in the new Pande.

This post makes you sound disgustingly cocky Burgi and bull-headed, even if you were just trying to prove a point.

As for the matter of Ainran attacking "Pande", isn't it a shell of what it once was as far as the members that remain? The core villagers have quit and I wouldn't even consider W6's Pande related to W5's anymore. The treaty/deal/whatever made between Ainran and Pande no longer matters as its a new World, one which, I might add, many former Pande members called a waste of time/fuck-around world.

[burgingham]

I am usually pretty calm. I am actually always pretty calm. The only time I got mad about the game was when I realized people in Pande did shit to help me and I was left all alone with most of the tasks. That was the day I decided to quit because it is just not worth it. You however. Well, I am just reminded of the time you joined that skype convo Mark and I were having while playing Wakfu...

I don't try to steer up anything. The opposite is what I wanted to do here. You are the one constantly creating drama out of nothing and I wanted to stop that. Also, don't try to threaten me with your knowledge or be condescending about it. That won't work on me.


For all the rest: Enjoy the drama while you can. Salem testing is fun and all, but there is just no drama in it yet. So at least here you can get some I guess...

Edit: This was obviously adressed at Sarchi.

[Avu]

Why do you have to prove Avu right? Can I not be right for once...

I fed them in w5, give them chars, equip, rings, harbor them in my town. How do they pay me back? By backstabbing some of the very same people who made them what they were in w5 the moment they turn their backs.

Nobody would have ever known what this little hole in the ground called Ainran was until the day I made you famous. But I guess there really is no sense of companionship or honor in any of you.

In all the time you famous PvPers were in Pandes service you did not manage to kill a single Russian I wanted you to kill. Yet I kept paying you. You kept dying, I kept re-equipping... Then you killed some fellow village members with the help of Sarchi. Repeat it in this new world again with Sarchi betraying his own and helping you (because without some backstabber from the inside you wouldn't have done shit).

I am bitterly disappointed. Good thing I don't play and there are not really many people I value in the new Pande.

This post makes you sound disgustingly cocky Burgi and bull-headed, even if you were just trying to prove a point.

As for the matter of Ainran attacking "Pande", isn't it a shell of what it once was as far as the members that remain? The core villagers have quit and I wouldn't even consider W6's Pande related to W5's anymore. The treaty/deal/whatever made between Ainran and Pande no longer matters as its a new World, one which, I might add, many former Pande members called a waste of time/fuck-around world.

W6 pande is not related to w5s that everyone agrees but there are still a few people there that were in pande at the same time the ainran ones were. Make no mistake I don't like odditown much more than I like ainran they're all griffers and trolls but I though perhaps the honor among thieves line was true to some extent. I guess it's not.

As for deals that no longer apply true but then again if one thinks every world is a new world no relations apply then they can agree that once they fuck over a friends trust they shouldn't expect any trust in return from then on right? So let me put it this way I do not associate with people that have backastabbed people they once called friends no matter what they may or may not have done. Yes that's directed at you sarchi.

[BooBooLaBoosh_]

Change the topic of this thread to pointless arguing.

[Squatthrust]

Change the topic of this thread to pointless arguing.

and move it to somewhere more appropriate.

[rye130]

the honor among thieves line was true to some extent. I guess it's not.

I guess I somewhat agree to you but I don't consider them raiding Pande or whatever you call it a complete backstab. They made it very clear to everyone in Skype (don't know who all it was relayed to) that they were not playing like last world and making buddies with everyone. They thoroughly severed their ties to Pande as far as I know.

As for deals that no longer apply true but then again if one thinks every world is a new world no relations apply then they can agree that once they fuck over a friends trust they shouldn't expect any trust in return from then on right? So let me put it this way I do not associate with people that have backastabbed people they once called friends no matter what they may or may not have done. Yes that's directed at you sarchi.

I interpret new worlds differently than you seem to. Every world is a clean slate to some extent. Sure in World 4 I didn't trust AD but that was because I never formed a friendly bond with them. If I got backstabbed by someone I considered a friend I would probably still play with them in future worlds, aslong as there was no personal, out of game conflict between us.

You were able to trust Burgi who raided you consistently during W2 at the start of W3 but you aren't able to reform trusts with people who backstab people they once called friends? I probably would not have because I would have known him on no friendly terms. Ingame backstabbing isn't the same as out of game relationships.

Change the topic of this thread to pointless arguing.

Shut up you insignificant fuck, be happy your getting some decent drama.