WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

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Re: WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

Postby vacilek » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:23 pm

I till don't understand, why some person use words such as "bug" and "abuse".
We have in a picture wall and ram near wall, rounded by objects, can be destroyed by another ram.
Type of objects doesn't matter, while it can be destroyed.
Fact, that village was not prepare for any ram, rounded by any objects (strongbox for example) don't allow to name this "bug" or "abuse". It's just problem of a village.
And this sutuation i see such as when player crack dock, loosing in chess.
Only one thing in this can be named "abuse". It's to use game devs for compensate mistakes of village defence.
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Re: WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

Postby Koru » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:34 pm

Of course surrounding ram with crossroads is an abuse. Crossroads aren't in game to protect rams. Same with buildings or strongboxes. Even palisaded/brickwalled ram is an abuse cus walls aren't for that. Problem is, siege system is poor and there is no way to do it without any abuse. Conquering an active village with at least halfbrained players is impossible cus even fresh alt can break ram.
Btw, crossroads can be build at any type of terrain (swamps too!) + shallow water, cape plx.
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Re: WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

Postby Astarisk » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:36 pm

vacilek wrote:I till don't understand, why some person use words such as "bug" and "abuse".
We have in a picture wall and ram near wall, rounded by objects, can be destroyed by another ram.
Type of objects doesn't matter, while it can be destroyed.
Fact, that village was not prepare for any ram, rounded by any objects (strongbox for example) don't allow to name this "bug" or "abuse". It's just problem of a village.
And this sutuation i see such as when player crack dock, loosing in chess.
Only one thing in this can be named "abuse". It's to use game devs for compensate mistakes of village defence.

What we have here is a ram surrounded by objects that can't be destroyed by hand, cheap to make, and easy to reuse if failed the first time. Strongboxes in my opinion also count as abuse of mechanics, yet atleast they require a serious resource investment, and if it can be stopped the first time might be enough to deter future assaults.
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Re: WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

Postby bmjclark » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:38 pm

Koru wrote:Of course surrounding ram with crossroads is an abuse. Crossroads aren't in game to protect rams. Same with buildings or strongboxes. Even palisaded/brickwalled ram is an abuse cus walls aren't for that. Problem is, siege system is poor and there is no way to do it without any abuse. Conquering an active village with at least halfbrained players is impossible cus even fresh alt can break ram.
Btw, crossroads can be build at any type of terrain (swamps too!) + shallow water, cape plx.


I agree with everything in this, but at the same time, crossroads aren't meant to protect clay spots either. Shall they start nuking clay spots?
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Re: WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

Postby Kaios » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:46 pm

vacilek wrote:I till don't understand, why some person use words such as "bug" and "abuse".
We have in a picture wall and ram near wall, rounded by objects, can be destroyed by another ram.
Type of objects doesn't matter, while it can be destroyed.
Fact, that village was not prepare for any ram, rounded by any objects (strongbox for example) don't allow to name this "bug" or "abuse". It's just problem of a village.
And this sutuation i see such as when player crack dock, loosing in chess.
Only one thing in this can be named "abuse". It's to use game devs for compensate mistakes of village defence.


So why didn't you use strongboxes or a wall then? Instead you decided to build an idol several minimaps away, extend the auth to our village, and build a ram surrounded in crossroads knowing full well that without a defensive ram already in place, destroying that ram before you started ramming would have been impossible.
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Re: WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

Postby ewlol » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:15 pm

So APEXOLOG, are you ever going to address the fact that you were blatantly wrong about the "anal friends" in Oddimonium?

Thought so.

Get the fuck out with your lame ass 4-year-old-crying-home-to-mommy bullshit. Perhaps if you tried squeezing out a legitimate justification from your mental abyss of a brain then people would actually listen to and respect you.
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Re: WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

Postby barracuda546 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:20 pm

Devs finally do something about the bullshit in the game and all people do is complain
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Re: WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

Postby Tonkyhonk » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:23 pm

oh cmon, peeps, get your butts out and start solving this puzzle!

what a neat way to stop a war, loftar 8-) i just hope you are prepared with a right answer ;)
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Re: WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

Postby APXEOLOG » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:56 pm

ewlol wrote:So APEXOLOG, are you ever going to ...

No

barracuda546 wrote:Devs finally do something about the bullshit in the game and all people do is complain

Nothing changes except of one failed ram.
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Re: WHAT A HELL IS THAT?!

Postby Aracos » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:09 pm

Its weird loftar interveining just now, when Oddimonium is under siege but not before when lots of strongboxes raids happend and ilegal vaults and XR protected nodes were built.

Coincidence?, maybe but i orly dont belive it.

PS: Does this means strongboxing rams is no longer allowed?, a crossroad is pretty much the same as a strongbox both can be just rammed ( a strongbox could be palibashed but only a few faction are able to develop a palibasher that much strong). If any village gets a strongboxed ram at his walls could we pm you loftar to fix it?.
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