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Re: Help! Please! Winterfell save us!

Postby Smurfette » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:06 am

Why this shit again?

The most intresting thing is that u are raiding legit ONLY when u need to repair your reputation after some harsh words from other fractions. If u really believe that your actions are proper, u dont need to show us anything. If u wanted to discredit Aracos, i dont see any point in that, cause everyone decided theire side a long time ago. And most of all one raid like that dont change anything when u was abusing bruteforce to raid fractions like AD satelites or WoR. For me the best way to assess someones behavior in HnH is to ask him what he will choose first: the easy and bug-abuse way to raid or the difficult but legit way? And i dont know why, but I have a hunch that if i would ask u guys, u will always give me that first anwser.
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Re: Help! Please! Winterfell save us!

Postby ravenguard19 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:09 pm

Smurfette wrote:Why this shit again?

The most intresting thing is that u are raiding legit ONLY when u need to repair your reputation after some harsh words from other fractions. If u really believe that your actions are proper, u dont need to show us anything. If u wanted to discredit Aracos, i dont see any point in that, cause everyone decided theire side a long time ago. And most of all one raid like that dont change anything when u was abusing bruteforce to raid fractions like AD satelites or WoR. For me the best way to assess someones behavior in HnH is to ask him what he will choose first: the easy and bug-abuse way to raid or the difficult but legit way? And i dont know why, but I have a hunch that if i would ask u guys, u will always give me that first anwser.


Ask Aracos what he will choose from: the easy way of fleeing using ferryman bug or using the hard legit way ;)
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Re: Help! Please! Winterfell save us!

Postby bmjclark » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:19 pm

Smurfette wrote:Why this shit again?

The most intresting thing is that u are raiding legit ONLY when u need to repair your reputation after some harsh words from other fractions. If u really believe that your actions are proper, u dont need to show us anything. If u wanted to discredit Aracos, i dont see any point in that, cause everyone decided theire side a long time ago. And most of all one raid like that dont change anything when u was abusing bruteforce to raid fractions like AD satelites or WoR. For me the best way to assess someones behavior in HnH is to ask him what he will choose first: the easy and bug-abuse way to raid or the difficult but legit way? And i dont know why, but I have a hunch that if i would ask u guys, u will always give me that first anwser.


And winterfell shit posts about bug abuse while abusing bugs themselves. Far better right?
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Re: Help! Please! Winterfell save us!

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:24 pm

rye130 wrote:
Aracos wrote:WW raid which was a little village, more like a settlement where all the valuables and chars where moved outside and was just a lose of time for you


Lets see...

To raid the village it took a few people camping ram for like 24 hours or whatever, then a bunch of people to go for the last 2 or 3 hours. Village was completely leveled.

To construct the village it took more time and more resources. Relocation of the goods and people took time and effort aswell.

The raiders time definitely wasn't "wasted" as it seems the villager owners lost more time and effort than the raiders. Raids aren't all about the loot or death of characters.


I do not think Wild West is completely lost to the hands of the enemies. If they do not have keys or anything to the village, the villagers can come back, patch up the hole, and return with some inconvenience.
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Re: Help! Please! Winterfell save us!

Postby rye130 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:22 pm

Wild West was complete leveled, as in all buildings and objects destroyed, all plants harvested and thrown away, etc. They'd have to rebuild it all, only time they'd save would be they wouldn't have to completely rebuild the brickwall.
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Re: Help! Please! Winterfell save us!

Postby iceheart » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:34 pm

I call dibs on the walls!
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Re: Help! Please! Winterfell save us!

Postby Valten21 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:45 pm

I don't know why you keep trying to tell us what a loss of time for us is. I assure you if some of the perps from AnO or other places actually logged and and left their brickwall we would of easily abandon the ram to go after them. But as it stands, we didn't stop ourselves from accomplishing anything we would not have also accomplished if the ram wasn't camped.

The fact that stuff was moved outside of the village into Mountain Of Parasites is good enough for me, - it means the village was actually being used and now no longer can be.
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Re: Help! Please! Winterfell save us!

Postby LadyGoo » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:04 pm

Valten21 wrote:we didn't stop ourselves from accomplishing anything we would not have also accomplished if the ram wasn't camped.
I was doing my silk stuff in the second window while the camping ^^ Sometemes I do it on chases as well.
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Re: Help! Please! Winterfell save us!

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:20 pm

rye130 wrote:Wild West was complete leveled, as in all buildings and objects destroyed, all plants harvested and thrown away, etc. They'd have to rebuild it all, only time they'd save would be they wouldn't have to completely rebuild the brickwall.


Ah thank you for elaborating more of the attack. Then that alone would make it more effort for Wild West to rebuild than Ainran/Dis to attack especially if it is confirmed that one person was camping the ram for a while.

Valten21 wrote:I don't know why you keep trying to tell us what a loss of time for us is. I assure you if some of the perps from AnO or other places actually logged and and left their brickwall we would of easily abandon the ram to go after them. But as it stands, we didn't stop ourselves from accomplishing anything we would not have also accomplished if the ram wasn't camped.

The fact that stuff was moved outside of the village into Mountain Of Parasites is good enough for me, - it means the village was actually being used and now no longer can be.


I wasn't implying that it was a waste of time and I apologize if it seems so. But before Rye informed me of the demolition of buildings. I had believe it would still be relatively quick for Wild West to rebuild and recover after the attack despite the damage (basing on at least 50% of the recovery speed of Sodom after the Gromit incident) but it doesn't seem the case now.
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Re: Help! Please! Winterfell save us!

Postby Aracos » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:54 pm

yo ainran guys, could you tell us how many stone mansions where destroyed?
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