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[ramones]

I didn't denny any of your words, I just said that you like to live a dream in other people heads.

@and you seem to like the "whole" perspective as you are dying to come to Ainran and give everyone a bj.

you denied that your support to your raiders and their support to you. you are Ainran but not Ainran trader and ask others to treat you like NOT related to Ainran at all. now that sounds really nice, doesnt it?
you denied to be a part of them because you dont raid. you only stopped hating them, right?
you dont live with them, live differently but only under the same village name, but you speak for them and says only those in Ainran can talk about their life, when you dont have that life. see how nonsense you are making here?
i dont understand how Ainran people dont get offended by what you are actually saying lol


btw, you are starting to sound like Goo now thats what she always said when she couldnt respond properly.

I don't give support to raiders, I sell them stuff same as I sell any other person who contacts me for trade. Is that support? Then I support whole HnH community.
I live in Ainran, don't have myself as one, am not oathed to Ainran and am trading stuff which is not grown from Ainran resources, so yes, its not related to Ainran but to me + few individuals who help me. Sounds nice to me.
I never said I stopped hating only Ainran, but every raider in-game. Which ist most likely since I saw their life from inside. I don't hate Portgas, I don't hate Poles, I don't hate Winterfell guys and I don't hate Koreans who are none on my side (and are raiders aswell)
I told you. You cannot understand life in Ainran if you don't live in Ainran. And stop saying I speak for them cause I don't, never did and never will. Nonsence is the part which you don't and cannot understand.
Why would they be offended? I am not representing Ainran in any of cases I've spoken about.

I love your hatred though :*

[Tonkyhonk]

stop saying I speak for them cause I don't, never did and never will. Nonsence is the part which you don't and cannot understand.

oh really? *reads back a little* lol
i shall disregard your posts mentioning Ainran then.

I love your hatred though :*

thanks i guess it has been my trademark lately.

[ramones]

Too bad I didn't join your village when invited early w6, you would of had better opinion of me I guess

[_Gunnar]

I live in Ainran, don't have myself as one, am not oathed to Ainran and am trading stuff which is not grown from Ainran resources, so yes, its not related to Ainran

...raider town with 80% people being outside raiding, killing & having fun, but when there was some work needed to be done he always tried to help and due to me running industry I bitched alot so my goal of raising q didn't suffer ...

You really don't use Ainran resources for your trade stuff? All the stuff you sell is made from your "own" resource spots? If so, well... nice. That doesn't change anything much though, in my view.

Like I said, if you don't want to explain you don't have to.... but I guess what you are saying is that your buddies [whose town you run/ran/? the industry of] would never raid anyone for the purpose of killing off your competition, so noone should read your messages as anything but friendly requests to increase prices + lower their own competitiveness?

Or is a better statement on the nature of your relationship with Ainran that you don't control them, they can do what they want, and if they help you with their raids it has nothing to do with you .

I don't care either way now, but you shouldn't be fake (although maybe its profitable to be fake, in which case you should )

btw, I was so sad when I came back and found that you were doing RMT & price fixing ;(.

[ramones]

You really don't use Ainran resources for your trade stuff? All the stuff you sell is made from your "own" resource spots? If so, well... nice. That doesn't change anything much though, in my view.

I used only soil for beggining for trees, which were shared through village through silkery, herb tables, coal and various stuff. That was only short period from begining, then I started to buy all resources which I still do. So preety much, yes.

Like I said, if you don't want to explain you don't have to.... but I guess what you are saying is that your buddies [whose town you run/ran/? the industry of] would never raid anyone for the purpose of killing off your competition, so noone should read your messages as anything but friendly requests to increase prices + lower their own competitiveness?

I don't think anyone from Ainran set goal to kill trading competition. I never made such requests and yes, my requests were my own words (not discussed with Ainran guys) of friendly nature. Did I want to profit from it? Well yes, I didn't want gold to be sold for 50 points per nug or at start good tools for too cheap. Was that cartel/mistake? Dunno, maybe, I just felt prices are going down just because people were greedy, while prices can be kept at same level not to bring them too low (but lets not discuss this over again )

Or is a better statement on the nature of your relationship with Ainran that you don't control them, they can do what they want, and if they help you with their raids it has nothing to do with you .

That sentence is jackpot
I started late in w6, didn't intend to play but I found water spot so I said oh well, I'll keep on going till I will have fun and thats what I did until I couldn't get out of my skin of having good q of everything, so I started doing trees + silk and so it began. Everyone else was out killing for lulz, and I was far from controling anyone

I don't care either way now, but you shouldn't be fake (although maybe its profitable to be fake, in which case you should )

I'm not sure I understand the "fake" part here...

btw, I was so sad when I came back and found that you were doing RMT & price fixing ;(.

I'm not. I don't play so I could earn money from game, but to have fun which I do. Lot of people are lazy or want to go higher and don't have time so they offered me RM and I said why not, they were my regular customers before that happened.

[Potjeh]

Why you want to sever the invisible hand?

[ramones]

Why you want to sever the invisible hand?

m?

[Horatius]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_hand

Adam Smith.

[joojoo1975]

what i don't understand is if you all know they exploit?

why do you continue to argue with them?


I mean the initial argument is well and fine, you have to establish factual statements and disprove the other side.



but when Everybody knows that these factions Blatantly abuse game mechanics and openly and unabashedly hack/cheat in this game, why even bother?

[Mcporkins]

joojoo, its cause there isnt much people can do against them, but clash and yell and throw accusations. and tonkyhonk is a very smart person, imho.