Vouss & co just raided oddimonium

[eric87x]

Anyway, I really don't think you should bother with updates after Salem beta, as Salem is quite simply a superior game and shouldn't have it's development hours stolen by H&H.

Yes, the mechanics simply make a lot more sense, keep developing Salem. No point in chasing two rabbits.

dont listen to these noobs Jorb, they are just mad kuz they suck at haven.

[Valten21]

Many people have been playing this game through the developers hiatus and enjoying it for what it is. I'm not worried in the slightest about Jorb and Loftar returning, I'm sure they will when they have the time. It does worry me that you are letting the weight of someone who would rather see the game dead effect changes you are making in said game.

[Potjeh]

Oh, I'd very much like to see H&H alive, but I really don't see how it could work. And if it can't, I'd rather see one game done well than two half-finished ones.

[Valten21]

That sounds a little more reasonable.

[WarpedWiseMan]

Many people have been playing this game through the developers hiatus and enjoying it for what it is. I'm not worried in the slightest about Jorb and Loftar returning, I'm sure they will when they have the time. It does worry me that you are letting the weight of someone who would rather see the game dead effect changes you are making in said game.

I am now convinced that Valten does not know the meaning of the word "Many".

And I'm glad to see jorb defend the development and status of Haven & Hearth so vehemently. And wrongly.

The game has been abandoned to a player base made up of almost entirely of raider factions because it makes zero sense to try and compete with the asshats anymore.

Still, I'm happy to see jorb still cares because that gives me hope for the future.

[ArvinJA]

Yup. Remember when Salem was announced? It was pretty much said that H&H would still be developed. It didn't quite work out like that. As much as I'd like the inspirational system from Salem in H&H and a revamping of the farming system among other things, I also know that time is limited.

[painhertz]

Many people have been playing this game through the developers hiatus and enjoying it for what it is. I'm not worried in the slightest about Jorb and Loftar returning, I'm sure they will when they have the time. It does worry me that you are letting the weight of someone who would rather see the game dead effect changes you are making in said game.

I am now convinced that Valten does not know the meaning of the word "Many".

And I'm glad to see jorb defend the development and status of Haven & Hearth so vehemently. And wrongly.

The game has been abandoned to a player base made up of almost entirely of raider factions because it makes zero sense to try and compete with the asshats anymore.

Still, I'm happy to see jorb still cares because that gives me hope for the future.

Apparently you missed the point at which the two "biggest" raider factions set aside an entire SG that's peaceful and by all accounts a smashing success. As much as I'd love to see the members of Dis and Ainran die inRL, I'll give them that.

That dog simply doesn't hunt anymore.

[painhertz]

Yup. Remember when Salem was announced? It was pretty much said that H&H would still be developed. It didn't quite work out like that. As much as I'd like the inspirational system from Salem in H&H and a revamping of the farming system among other things, I also know that time is limited.

And since then Jorb has clarified and pointed out that the near complete revamp of haven that is to come would require more work than can be put into Haven with Salem development going on and that nay updates would be merely adding in more junk to get scrapped when development resumes.

[Potjeh]

Hence abandoned for now. And I doubt there'll be time for it in foreseeable future, since Salem is gonna require a ton of content. Maybe when God Emperor gets his lazy ass out of that chair.

[Mvpeh]

Yeah, I honestly don't see Haven making a full comeback. Salem is a much bigger game and will require loads of time (As we've seen for the past few years), and will drain from Haven. At best, maybe we'll get bi-annual updates.