War between winterfell, ainran and R&C.

[Patchouli_Knowledge]

There is a flaw within that defense...

[LadyGoo]

Why? Ainran will kill u all just for fun.. Cause u like so much fighting with and against them .. we can just wait, do nothing and check forum for more screenshots from Valten xD

Ya, I liked going to raids with them. I even lived in Ainran for several days which I shouldn't do since it confused my people and made them quite careless assuming that Ainran and Dis are neutral. Even when some of us dies from Ainran's hands we stayed neutral, surprisingly for me. All those kills were made without knowing they were Dis' people. Even in the conversations with core warriors they were saying 'So what, they didn't know it'. But... when they showed up near to Dis' walls and hardly killed one of us the situation changed. I guess, childhood for Dis an me ended ^^
Ya, you can wait.... and die.

[Elaes]

o.0

Show me in my all posts that i called u and Aracos noobs? Im calling Aracos a greedy "son of a bitch", and this is a big difference xD We are not underestimate Winterfell. Your moves are telling everything about who u want to be on this world. And everyone shoud know that any ally or pact with u could not be honnored of your honesty and loyalty.

Im just waiting for your: "We didnt do anything wrong, we are pure and fair like we always have been", cause this bullshit will end the story for me for sure.

you missed for sure the post 1 page behind where we explained that no1 can be pure and fair, aside for their own opinion, like in this situation i can tell you (and your free to not belive me) that if koru would have informed us about 1 of his village that close to our position we would never gone for it.
i dont blame you for your point of view, your free to think whatever you want and think to be right for your position like im for mine, i simply ask you to dont be lured by pressing the juicy "reply" button before read previous posts

p.s. the noobs for us part was not for you, and my bad to avoid to not quote every single guy posting here to explain my thoughts but if i've to express my opinion just about you and to you then i would've used the pm function

[Sarchi]

Winterfell raided my peaceful village and killed all our farmers and smashed all our houses with rams and then called us faggots.



I will crush them.

[Smurfette]

And another lol - Ainran has NO crossroads from us. They teleported to Diuna from our main village, after we oath them to VC xD Tell me, really why u want to try to make this our fault? We didnt do ANY agressive moves against Winterfell from the begining, and like i said Korush still thinks that Aracos is his friend. I can tell u even more.. Valten was asking about Winterfell on the begining of the world, and we told him that we cannot help and get him any info about Winterfell, cause u are/was our friends. I dont understand why u are thinking that this situation was some kind a provocation. We have some other villages, that Aracos i think dont know. But this have nothing to do with claims that Ainran is using them to attack u.

And if i can tell this one more time: saying sorry for misstake isnt this dificult, but u are still with behavior that i cannot accept after that good relations we had earlier.

Attacking friends by missunderstanding is one thing, but doing nothing to resolve the situation peacefull is for me the main reason i can be mad on Winterfell.

[Koru]

Ainran wasn't (isn't?) aour allies, they offered help to us just like Winterfell. Ainran wasn't using our villages to go to Winterfell before Diuna incident. I don't know from where you took your information, I guess you tried to connect few facts. Even when I knew Valten was hunting Aracos I didn't tell Winterfell's location to him. Please, don't make some conspiracy theory, few pages more and we gonna admit that Diuna was a fake village that left scents to get Aracos raid it and to have a war between our factions to see Dis join Winterfell and the world gonna end in total war .

[Kaze_no_Kamil]

While everyone is continuing discussing about different issues within this skirmish, I'd like to add my own thoughts on this as a third party observor and by no mean I am siding with anyone on this.

The walling with strongbox and statues is similar in nature than long-walling from a distant village. The primary difference is the varying degrees of destructibility.

Strongboxes can be bashed and rammed.
Brickwall cannot be bashed but can be rammed.
Statues cannot be rammed at all.

The main thing I am seeing here is the different usage of different walling techniques for different purposes. At the very least Winterfell didn't enclose the entire place with statues or simply cock block the entrance of that house with one so it may not be as severe as many would say. However I think the problem with people having with Winterfell is their reputation (I'm out of loop with the political reputation so I might be wrong) to the public that they are anti-bug-users and their actions reflected upon such as hypocrisy. Not sure if they have the same policy for world 6 though. Not sure whether people are focus on this is good or bad though.

Now another issue people are having is that they will not come out of their walls. I do not see any reason why they would go out so they have made some enemies out there now (perhaps they made such an environment for themselves but YMMV). Personally I wouldn't go out either if I knew people from different factions want to gank me unless I had Blaze's stats along with Nao's combative instincts.

Finally, it is not the statues that seems to be the problem but the crossroads itself which prevents those inside that fort from building a ram within that strongbox barrier (strongboxes aren't full tiles?). This is more of a tactical point of view rather than anything moral based.

PS: Looking at the picture, the placement of the statues sucks.

tl;dr Walling justification. Winterfell's previous reputation as anti-bug-users vs action. Being called cowards. And crappy statues.

[barracuda546]

the stupid thing is that sieges have come to who can abuse these features in the most creative way, blocking in a ram with 3 houses/strong boxes then blocking that with statues it is retarded. but everyone knows that already i guess

[Oddity]

Nao's combative instincts

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[Vigilance]

the part where they got in to the rambox made my day, for real.