Everybody hurts...from their butt

[APXEOLOG]

All Dis-sided posters here forgot about one thing: the problem is not in having a hf inside and summoning, problem is in bruteforcing hearth secrets, which is actually is the same thing as bruteforcing any other password.

All other-side posters hate D&A because were killed, or envys D&A, because we are strongest and have top-q production!

[_Gunnar]

Come on guys, noone is going to get nuked. There doesnt seem any precedent, ofc bruteforcing hs is "wrong", but that just means that the hs mechanic needs fixing, not that any faction in game should be punished.

If you nuke either side, you might as well just nuke the whole world and start w7. There is no way that anyone is getting nuked, unless Jorb has seriously lost it. I know that there is no time for H&H development, but if you look at Dis it is a proper city and a real accomplishment, and destroying that is just not caring about people who clearly love the game that you have made.

[GrayKarl]

in DiS mind "what is wrong with hs-forcing?"

[eL_Diablo]

Still waiting for jorb =( I am bored...
Ah and yes, where is my druid cape for finding this "well known game mechanic feature"? Looks like i need one, such as oddi guys!

We are discussing in detail right now what all of u guys needs to be nuked. Probably Dis entirely, question right now is Ainran.

Was my suggestion btw, but you knew that already

People who quit are suggesting things that should happen ingame. Not to say its not suggestios, its butthurt again to see their nice game (mine too) being played the only way it can be in this destroyed stance. And may I add how dumb the suggestion is, whoever the idea was from. Instead of devs making fix to summoning, you will destroy someone that had no connection to this raid whatsoever, right? Fixing non broken things again.

Again, its same dumb decision as loftars was when he nuked the ram Dis made early in game at Oddimonium walls (surrounded with CRs) with that statues.

Stop doing bullshit and if anyone plans to do dumbshit actions, then rather close the game so no one can play. Its full of bugs, everyone knows that, no one will fix it, face it. Fixing a thing that doesn't need fixing over things that are destroying game = fail.

(No one was nuked for boting in w2?)
No one was nuked for boting in w3.
No one was nuked for boting in w4.
No one or no town was nuked in w5 for boting, walljumping, servercrashing.
No one in w6 was nuked who was account stealing and killed how many? 5-10 chars with it?

Now you are saying that you suggest that someone, who was smart enough to put hf into a town, which grew big and strong and they were dumb enough not to destroy HF, and fed that alt with curios, bought rage or whatever needed to summon people in, that even if they used a method that is fairly good plan from begining of world and no one else ever considered it, that this is worse that all stuff I mentioned in my previous lines? And they need to be nuked? Lol at that kind of thinking.

And NO, I do not support any walljumps or anything, but YOU or Avu or Potjeh or anyone who played and quit will not fix the game IF DEVS WILL NOT WANT TO, and they aparently DO NOT WANT TO at this moment, meaning that players can just bug-it-till-it dies. And again, having hf+summon inside village is not bug. It is something devs intended to work like it does. So bug them to fix it, thank you

And when devs listen to you or players who QUIT and ara only butthurt on forums then we know that this needs to be first thing that gets fixed.

PS: My capital letters are not screaming, marely what i wanted to bold out.

Ramones, this first time when Iam absolutely agree with u.

upd words that marked as fat and large force me login on forum and put this msg here. (didn't post something long time btw )

[GrayKarl]

Come on guys, noone is going to get nuked. There doesnt seem any precedent, ofc bruteforcing hs is "wrong", but that just means that the hs mechanic needs fixing, not that any faction in game should be punished.

If you nuke either side, you might as well just nuke the whole world and start w7. There is no way that anyone is getting nuked, unless Jorb has seriously lost it. I know that there is no time for H&H development, but if you look at Dis it is a proper city and a real accomplishment, and destroying that is just not caring about people who clearly love the game that you have made.

u rape and rob and kill young little children when you love them?

honostly few gang groups arent loving this game, they love killing or being dominant becoz their real life is sucks, Im the one of them(not abusing game but poor life one). what they had proven till now? except fuck and make quit other groups who trully love and enjoy this game?

[_Gunnar]

in DiS mind "what is wrong with hs-forcing?"

I'm not dis ofc, but I dont see such a difference between hs-forcing and botting farming/mining/anything else. I will never use bots, but you guys all do, so don't pretend you have a problem with anything like this...

There is a difference between hs-forcing using a bot in game and cracking a password btw.

u rape and rob and kill young little children when you love them?

honostly few gang groups arent loving this game, they love killing or being dominant becoz their real life is sucks, Im the one of them(not abusing game but poor life one). what they had proven till now? except fuck and make quit other groups who trully love and enjoy this game?

well, i am just saying, i think that Dis is a proper city, but not "lawful good" like other people have claimed to be in the past. I can't approve of them wiping random newbies, and its true that there are many raiders within Dis, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a true city, or seems to be.

I was talking with my friend, and he pointed out the difference between Dis and Ainran for example: Dis is a faction with raiders, Ainran is a raider faction.

I'm not just going to swallow propaganda & accept that Dis have no goal other than killing. I think their overall goal is the same as any superpower - just more power & control. I don't know what they intend to do with that control, would be interesting to know for sure.

[Anon9k]

in DiS mind "what is wrong with hs-forcing?"

There is a difference between hs-forcing using a bot in game and cracking a password btw.

I don't see a difference. HS is the same shit as password: you can share it with a few trusted people and let them do something, that's not a public information, so unauthorized access to it is a violation.

[GrayKarl]

all abusings are abusing, They did it not becoz they could, but becoz they want to win. miserable fucking twats tried million combinations for this, I respect it of course, that your eager, passion. and also how pathetic if you guys used that shit on studying or helping africa

[burgingham]

You guys are so gullible, most of all you Ramo

Yeah, I am the one who is butthurt and not the ones who now mobilize all their forces to prevent getting nuked which they all know they deserve. The devs listen to us because we are still the only ones caring truly about the games state. People like Dis and now you too only take the game in its current state and shake the magic eightball that is HnH some more to make the outcome to be even more in their favour no matter if the rest of the crew has to throw up from all the shaking.

Then come the excuses like in this thread. Oh, but this time it was only a little bit of bruteforcing hearthsecrets and last time it was only a little bit of walljumping or servercrashing, but that big bad guy over there did much worse things! We all know you had to do it as APXEOLOG thankfully pointed out it wasn't even that hard and the game didn't give you any choice.

I got my ass nuked in w2 so to speak, back when the devs still cared. I learned from it and started to take the game serious as a tester. That is why I am where I am right now an dnot because Jorb has some kind of weird favouritism.

[_Gunnar]

in DiS mind "what is wrong with hs-forcing?"

There is a difference between hs-forcing using a bot in game and cracking a password btw.

I don't see a difference. HS is the same shit as password: you can share it with a few trusted people and let them do something, that's not a public information, so unauthorized access to it is a violation.

Newb raiders guess other newbies hs all the time, and then rape them. You want to ban/nuke them too?

Its the mechanic that needs changing.

ps graykarl i edited my previous post, but took too long... maybe u can scroll up if u want to read.