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[ramones]

Ramones, your explanation wasn't convincing - I think actually you simply don't understand what we are talking about though, so I guess case closed, but i reserve the right to repeat myself later

burg & tonky have said (several times) what i also think about this particular matter so much more eloquently than i possibly could, so thanks.
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I understand, but thanks for concern

[joojoo1975]

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because you guys are the top of the heap. but how you got there. . . This is the #1 reason in all my recruitment threads you and Dis will be mentioned.

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you know valten, your right. I do use the tanning bug and i do use ender's client. And i have used the discovery thing as well. but here's the thing. what your tryin to do is be like a serial rapist and murderer and point your finger at a jaywalker or at a speeder and yell. "See, look at him, he's Just like me!" what I also said to bmj also applies to you.

sorry doesn't work that way. and your intelligent enough to know that. please don't go the way of crf

(now if i have to, i'll break it down for ya, but do i really need to go there?)

[Potjeh]

I thought Shroedinger's Cat is a part of pop culture :S

[Valten21]

Tell me, how did we get their Joojoo. I just have a feeling you are making a big assumption here. We (me and bmj) don't even use bots.

and if you missed it in the other thread, here is the basis of our exploits in pvp

It's like.. someone runs up to me, calls down the thunder, I call down the thunder back, and start running, I keep calling down the thunder, but he does not. I now have 6 coins, he still has 1, I turn and fight. Am I abusing a bug?

most of our combat exploits are exploiting either runspeed, or the fact our opponent does not know how to react (throw sand, for example)

Granted, there are some pretty unfair ways to abuse 0 weight when moving and rivers, they have been reported and we will just wait for them to get fix'd I suppose. <- make it so you can que up moves in water.

[joojoo1975]

Tell me, how did we get their Joojoo. I just have a feeling you are making a big assumption here. We (me and bmj) don't even use bots.

and if you missed it in the other thread, here is the basis of our exploits in pvp

It's like.. someone runs up to me, calls down the thunder, I call down the thunder back, and start running, I keep calling down the thunder, but he does not. I now have 6 coins, he still has 1, I turn and fight. Am I abusing a bug?

most of our combat exploits are exploiting either runspeed, or the fact our opponent does not know how to react (throw sand, for example)

Granted, there are some pretty unfair ways to abuse 0 weight when moving and rivers, they have been reported and we will just wait for them to get fix'd I suppose. <- make it so you can que up moves in water.

all right valten. lets begin.

we'll start with the war between winterfell, ainran and R&C

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=24162&hilit=dis+rabbit

read it if you will, and tell me if what aracos said about you using strongboxes and timberhouses to wall in your ram is correct. There is more about everyone using abuses in that part, but i'm just dealing with you atm.

second lets take a look at the Wrath of Rabbits raid.

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=25516

you say that what your girlfriend said in quotes and skype logs is what you wanted to say. here we have, once again everybody using hacks and exploits.



now if your gonna say" but me and bmj never did these things, we are all clean." then your using a ramones argument there as well as a PH argument in past.

here is the post bout PH's old argument and my reply

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=25683

look round page 7 4th post down right after burg.


I was also going to post the Everyone hurts. ..from thier butt thread. But i think i have enough there.


if you lie down with dogs, don't be surprised if you wake up with fleas.

[Valten21]

Don't know if your aware but I quit after WoR raid for reasons you listed. Those raids are not what put as at the top, as you put it.
What I'm saying is, these events took place after we established ourselves as a prominent raiding faction this world, that doesn't excuse them by any means. I originally had no plans to siege this world because no matter which way you do it, it's bull shit. I was entirely content with just rolling around attacking people outside of walls, but when one of my village mates - or allies, goes through the effort to attempt a seige, he could of course count on me to be there to fight.

[bmjclark]

Because you do it everyday and kill people with it. Tons of people. (That is also the answer to Valtens pseudo argument)

Do tell how i've used exploits to kill people every day. I'm pretty curious. Most people i kill are by palibashing them and summoning them with scents they left. Is palibashing an exploit? I don't think i've ever had to use movement in fights because most people either run away, or just don't know wtf they're doing. And after i'm done killing/stealing i return to my brickwalled town, not vault.

Obviously, the wrath of rabbits raid used an exploit, but that's not every day now is it.

[joojoo1975]

valten and bmj

i think what your missing here is the fact that you guys are on top and you got there via exploit/cheat means.


you all say now look at us, we don't do that anymore and whatnot. But all that loot you got from when you did use exploits or when you were with peeps who used exploits still "taints" you.

seriously do i have to repost what PH said and my reply, cause your all saying the same thing.

fuck it.

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Let's clear something up here and now, fuckstick. This was MY raid, not an Ainran raid. I AM NOT a part of Ainran and as far as I know, friends of mine who happen to be in Ainran can raid with me if they want without Ainran's doings following them. They were not representing Ainran on the raid, they were representing "Troy's friends" if you will.

I don't use bugs NOR would I allow bugs to be used on a raid I'm running as I prefer to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. The simple fact is that these guys didn't use even the most basic tenets of Haven & Hearth security and now I and a couple friends have their shit. End of story.

To be clear yet again, this was a raid by Painhertz, Salem's Lot llc and some friends of mine who've "been" friends of mine since Ainran was still Narnia.

not when you bring known "cheaters" if you will. you of all people should know what happens when you bring in "ringers". Like i said up above PH, if you didn't include your ainran friends, i would not be posting. but since you did, their "taint" is now on your hands as well for this lil raid. and if you profited Rather well from the co-work of your "friends" then you will be forever "tainted" in this world. one cannot place hot coals in his lap and not expect to be burned?

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[LadyGoo]

valten and bmj
i think what your missing here is the fact that you guys are on top and you got there via exploit/cheat means.

lol. What a newb.

[joojoo1975]

lol. What a newb.

why do you even post?