I feel after conversing with someone from both Dis and Ainran I feel the common view of them is distorted.
Both are really cool and make good for a chat. They are nice people...well in a sense. Before that though I have seen that through all their fights with each other and other they stay cool about the whole thing. They walk away from it with no resentment towards the other even if they happened to lose. That is more impressive than most things I've seen in the world of H&H.
Now why everyone hates them.They hate them cause they are lethal and pretty much at end game so that means that they tend to get bored and raid. but even small villages try to raid and some succeed.So if they kill you or destroy everything you have done in this game well to be honest that is part of the game. So pick yourself up and move on.
I know this thread isn't much but I'm just sick of people hating them just cause they are them. Do I think you should hate them? No I do not. Not in the least. But, I do believe they are each a force to be feared.
But anyhow either comment on my thoughts or turn this into a thread for you to say how you feel or describe your individual tales of meeting whether you lived through it or died by either group.