Starting an Amazon Village.

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Re: Starting an Amazon Village.

Postby painhertz » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:21 pm

Couple of points.....

#1 I think you'd all be surprised how many females play this game, I've been gaming and MMoging for quite a while and so far Haven is the most integrated sexually speaking that I've run across. I'd easily put the player base at 70% male 30% female if not a higher % of females. (I'm going by the representative sample in my 90 or so Haven skype friends.)

#2 Females, possibly unlike in RL are in no way at a disadvantage in this game. Lady Goo personally scares my old ass.

#3 A lot of villages in the Hearthlands are run quite successfully by females. Emerald, Phaen, Kitamie, Goo (Even though she claims it's a Democracy :P)

#4 Many guys who may spout "Tits or gtfo" on the forums to impress other guys are WAY more respectful in game with females or in Skype when the "Alpha Male Contest" isn't being fought.

#5 Polan Horde sucks, nothing to do with females but i just thought I'd throw that in there. :P
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Re: Starting an Amazon Village.

Postby xenattasha » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:46 pm

I'm a total noob. Don't know how to play yet. Would like to join your village. Please PM me a hearth secret so I can spawn there and join.
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Re: Starting an Amazon Village.

Postby WatsonX » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:34 am

When a woman says, "Men are evil and the source of all violence in the world," its femininst and socially acceptable. But if I say, "My woman will never have to work if, she doesn't want to," I'm become an evil, violent, sexist pig. Go figure.
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Re: Starting an Amazon Village.

Postby therealredrabbit » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:01 am

Okay sister,
My father was a misogynist of the "bit below bad" sort. I have protested with feminists and am currently working very hard in a women's rights campaign, in high school I was constantly harrassed by a group of christian kids because of my sexuality, culminating in stones and trash being thrown at me on numerous occasions and two bloody fist fights.

Bigotry seems to most often to arise from accusing an arbitrary group for a problem you see in the world ie:

we will start out small, but hopefully gain strength to show the oppressed female masses there is hope to escape the violence MEN have brought.

or even worse is Dallane:
men are the only reason this game has violence same as the real world.


The reason why this game is violent is because it was designed to be. The devs made a game which:
1. is permadeath.
2. encourages character progression around asperations of murder and thievery. If people weren't supposed to be murdered then it wouldn't be written into the code.

this game isn't farmville, it is a cult game which I expect has a higher percentage of Dwarf Fortress or ADOM players then anything else. If you aren't used to permadeath and to brutal game mechanics than this game isn't for you. Those players who have stuck with it and leveled quality characters are players who, I suspect, love brutal game mechanics regardless of their sex. I'm running a series of peaceful little hermit homes which have all been raided and the like. I have backup suplies hidden across my area and enjoy the struggle. When I get stolen from or raided I move on. When I first got murdered my character was a female. I have no idea whether the murderers were men or woman although I remember their screennames their sex seemed unimportant.

The point is that People play this game, black people, gay people, straight people, womanfolk, Jews, Christians, menfolk, racist folk, sexist folk, Russians, Koreans, Americans etc.. there might even be a Mormon hiding in Mordor. They majority are hopefully playing it because they like it how it is. They don't really control the game mechanics and although there are various scape-goats for individual difficulties i find a phrase like:

which is why we should band together and declare ourselves free.


idiotic and far beyond the realms of Fantasy.
If you want to free your sisters then fight against the guys who are writing laws against your uterous while you play this game. Don't damage yourself by pursuing a fantasy that all woman are peaceful and all men are violent.

Ps. Why the fuck did I just write all this when I could have just said STFU? There goes my first forum post, I'm now officially impressed enough with this game to flame idiots on its forums with long and unedited monologues.

PPS. Great idea by the way, an Amazon village in which all the Hearthlings are extremely brutal combat focused female rangers who torture men and often turn them into their physical slaves and whose name comes from the very sexist Greek term "antianeirai" which means, "they who fight like men."
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Re: Starting an Amazon Village.

Postby Dallane » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:16 am

lol i cant really express sarcasm in txt.

nice 1st post tho
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Re: Starting an Amazon Village.

Postby HarryDresden » Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:52 am

As someone who is often considered a "Chauvinistic Pig," I simply see it as getting raised right in my book. My mother raised me with an abusive, drug addled moron of a step father, and specifically raised me not to be in any way, shape, or form like him. Forgive me if I happen to see women in a different light, but perhaps it's because, well, to be honest. You're not equal to us men. Not saying it in a bad way, but it's Apples to Oranges that this game is so fond of. Men and Women can not be compared side by side, simply because we've evolved to be one organism. We're meant to be a social creature, bound by our word and deeds, so forgive me if I insist on paying the bill, pulling out your chair, and opening your door. If you don't have the courtesy to accept that this is how some people actually enjoy going about your life, and want to spend all your time shouting about the evils of the Patriarchy, and how they're keeping you down, perhaps you should make like Rosie the Riveter; Quit before you injure your Cello hand.
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Re: Starting an Amazon Village.

Postby Eemerald » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:19 pm

HarryDresden wrote:As someone who is often considered a "Chauvinistic Pig," I simply see it as getting raised right in my book. My mother raised me with an abusive, drug addled moron of a step father, and specifically raised me not to be in any way, shape, or form like him. Forgive me if I happen to see women in a different light, but perhaps it's because, well, to be honest. You're not equal to us men. Not saying it in a bad way, but it's Apples to Oranges that this game is so fond of. Men and Women can not be compared side by side, simply because we've evolved to be one organism. We're meant to be a social creature, bound by our word and deeds, so forgive me if I insist on paying the bill, pulling out your chair, and opening your door. If you don't have the courtesy to accept that this is how some people actually enjoy going about your life, and want to spend all your time shouting about the evils of the Patriarchy, and how they're keeping you down, perhaps you should make like Rosie the Riveter; Quit before you injure your Cello hand.



I think you confuse the terms. Opening doors, and pulling chairs out etc etc wouldnt not give u the label of chauvinistic pig, quite the opposite. theyre nice pleasantries when on a date or with a woman u care abt in general. heck its nice to do those things even for guys, family, friends. women who have issue with a guy being nice towards them in this way have issues, and i dont get why any woman would be upset over things like that.

If patriarchy is apparently a man opening a door for you, then we'd have no issues.
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Re: Starting an Amazon Village.

Postby Dallane » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:40 pm

Eemerald wrote:
HarryDresden wrote:As someone who is often considered a "Chauvinistic Pig," I simply see it as getting raised right in my book. My mother raised me with an abusive, drug addled moron of a step father, and specifically raised me not to be in any way, shape, or form like him. Forgive me if I happen to see women in a different light, but perhaps it's because, well, to be honest. You're not equal to us men. Not saying it in a bad way, but it's Apples to Oranges that this game is so fond of. Men and Women can not be compared side by side, simply because we've evolved to be one organism. We're meant to be a social creature, bound by our word and deeds, so forgive me if I insist on paying the bill, pulling out your chair, and opening your door. If you don't have the courtesy to accept that this is how some people actually enjoy going about your life, and want to spend all your time shouting about the evils of the Patriarchy, and how they're keeping you down, perhaps you should make like Rosie the Riveter; Quit before you injure your Cello hand.



I think you confuse the terms. Opening doors, and pulling chairs out etc etc wouldnt not give u the label of chauvinistic pig, quite the opposite. theyre nice pleasantries when on a date or with a woman u care abt in general. heck its nice to do those things even for guys, family, friends. women who have issue with a guy being nice towards them in this way have issues, and i dont get why any woman would be upset over things like that.

If patriarchy is apparently a man opening a door for you, then we'd have no issues.


He doesn't have the terms confuse. He is making fun of her for being a manhating feminist.
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Re: Starting an Amazon Village.

Postby HarryDresden » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:14 pm

Eemerald wrote:
HarryDresden wrote:As someone who is often considered a "Chauvinistic Pig," I simply see it as getting raised right in my book. My mother raised me with an abusive, drug addled moron of a step father, and specifically raised me not to be in any way, shape, or form like him. Forgive me if I happen to see women in a different light, but perhaps it's because, well, to be honest. You're not equal to us men. Not saying it in a bad way, but it's Apples to Oranges that this game is so fond of. Men and Women can not be compared side by side, simply because we've evolved to be one organism. We're meant to be a social creature, bound by our word and deeds, so forgive me if I insist on paying the bill, pulling out your chair, and opening your door. If you don't have the courtesy to accept that this is how some people actually enjoy going about your life, and want to spend all your time shouting about the evils of the Patriarchy, and how they're keeping you down, perhaps you should make like Rosie the Riveter; Quit before you injure your Cello hand.



I think you confuse the terms. Opening doors, and pulling chairs out etc etc wouldnt not give u the label of chauvinistic pig, quite the opposite. theyre nice pleasantries when on a date or with a woman u care abt in general. heck its nice to do those things even for guys, family, friends. women who have issue with a guy being nice towards them in this way have issues, and i dont get why any woman would be upset over things like that.

If patriarchy is apparently a man opening a door for you, then we'd have no issues.


As Dallane stated, not only are you missing the joke (I'm sure there's quite a few who haven't read the Dresden Files), but you're also missing the jibes about extreme feminism and manhating, and how ridiculous it all is. Good luck catching up, plenty of source material on the subject.
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Re: Starting an Amazon Village.

Postby Eemerald » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:35 pm

HarryDresden wrote:
Eemerald wrote:
HarryDresden wrote:As someone who is often considered a "Chauvinistic Pig," I simply see it as getting raised right in my book. My mother raised me with an abusive, drug addled moron of a step father, and specifically raised me not to be in any way, shape, or form like him. Forgive me if I happen to see women in a different light, but perhaps it's because, well, to be honest. You're not equal to us men. Not saying it in a bad way, but it's Apples to Oranges that this game is so fond of. Men and Women can not be compared side by side, simply because we've evolved to be one organism. We're meant to be a social creature, bound by our word and deeds, so forgive me if I insist on paying the bill, pulling out your chair, and opening your door. If you don't have the courtesy to accept that this is how some people actually enjoy going about your life, and want to spend all your time shouting about the evils of the Patriarchy, and how they're keeping you down, perhaps you should make like Rosie the Riveter; Quit before you injure your Cello hand.



I think you confuse the terms. Opening doors, and pulling chairs out etc etc wouldnt not give u the label of chauvinistic pig, quite the opposite. theyre nice pleasantries when on a date or with a woman u care abt in general. heck its nice to do those things even for guys, family, friends. women who have issue with a guy being nice towards them in this way have issues, and i dont get why any woman would be upset over things like that.

If patriarchy is apparently a man opening a door for you, then we'd have no issues.


As Dallane stated, not only are you missing the joke (I'm sure there's quite a few who haven't read the Dresden Files), but you're also missing the jibes about extreme feminism and manhating, and how ridiculous it all is. Good luck catching up, plenty of source material on the subject.



fair enough, my bad. :) i might be slow in catching up to your manly intelligence and humour though;)
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