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Re: Unfriendly People/Griefers/Criminals General

Postby ramones » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:55 pm

You have bad luck to start in such location. If you say you are playing for 3 days and died twice, you probably didn't loose much. Spawn new character in different area, start over, hav fun exploring and hopefully you wont have such people around yourself. Some areas in the world are more cruel than others, but at this stage many have quit already so there is a chance to find "safe" area. Just give it a shot, nothing you can loose.
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Re: Unfriendly People/Griefers/Criminals General

Postby Noizz1 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:22 pm

ramones wrote:You have bad luck to start in such location. If you say you are playing for 3 days and died twice, you probably didn't loose much. Spawn new character in different area, start over, hav fun exploring and hopefully you wont have such people around yourself. Some areas in the world are more cruel than others, but at this stage many have quit already so there is a chance to find "safe" area. Just give it a shot, nothing you can loose.


Thank You for reply. I had 7k+ Learning points and 20 intelligence (19+1) and other attributes at 10-14. I had also 2 points in Change (personal believes). After two deaths I had 11 intelligence, all other attributess at 10. and 1500+ LP. :/
But this is not the case (but anyway, losing 50% of skills?! its insane!). Its not much but I have lack of willingness to get back to this point and even further if someone can murder my avatar without reason and I can not defend. If there is a way to avoid death from criminals it would be awesome.
For example, does ppl see me if I am behind the tree? or they have some game client modifications and they see me? I could run away immidietly and hide behind tree to survive (if enemy didnt click on me).
Any way to escape/survive?

Edit:
Am I save on a boat?
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Re: Unfriendly People/Griefers/Criminals General

Postby Cranny » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:20 am

Noizz1 wrote:?


I think you have a nice option to survive and learn the game that most of us did not have at our starting time, that is apply to Ems city "Malachite".
She has designed this city for new and returning players, that have no means to defend themselves and this way they can have the chance to build up stats and skills in a more safe environment.
She does not accept players that intend to play PvP, neither under 18 though.

Once you get through the point of accepting that your char can die at any moment and for no reason you start enjoying a beautiful game.
Good luck!. :D

PD: No, you are not safe on a boat either.
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Re: Unfriendly People/Griefers/Criminals General

Postby dagrimreefah » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:13 am

Noizz1 wrote: If there is a way to avoid death from criminals it would be awesome.

Walls.
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Re: Unfriendly People/Griefers/Criminals General

Postby jordancoles » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:04 am

dagrimreefah wrote:Walls.
Duhhrail wrote:No matter how fast you think you can beat your meat, Jordancoles lies in the shadows and waits to attack his defenseless prey. (tl;dr) Don't afk and jack off. :lol:

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Re: Unfriendly People/Griefers/Criminals General

Postby ramones » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:56 am

Noizz1 wrote:Thank You for reply. I had 7k+ Learning points and 20 intelligence (19+1) and other attributes at 10-14. I had also 2 points in Change (personal believes). After two deaths I had 11 intelligence, all other attributess at 10. and 1500+ LP. :/
But this is not the case (but anyway, losing 50% of skills?! its insane!). Its not much but I have lack of willingness to get back to this point and even further if someone can murder my avatar without reason and I can not defend. If there is a way to avoid death from criminals it would be awesome.
For example, does ppl see me if I am behind the tree? or they have some game client modifications and they see me? I could run away immidietly and hide behind tree to survive (if enemy didnt click on me).
Any way to escape/survive?

Edit:
Am I save on a boat?


People can see you through walls, idols, trees, stones. You are not safe behind any of the objects because custom clients have hide feature, or x-ray feature. U are also not safe on boat, thoguht if you are on boat you can boat around if only 1 person is chasing you and he can hardly do any damage if you know how to boat (clicking as far away as possible instead of every 10 tiles will speed your boating alot), but then again he can also destroy your boat, so you should not stand still.

I'd still stick to my point of moving to different location, making new char, or listening to what Cranny suggested to you.
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Re: Unfriendly People/Griefers/Criminals General

Postby Noizz1 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:26 pm

Thank You all for replies and advices.

Cranny wrote:
Noizz1 wrote:?

Once you get through the point of accepting that your char can die at any moment and for no reason you start enjoying a beautiful game.
Good luck!. :D


That changes everything. I will try to play with the new attitude (no more afking during fishing :/)

I have one more question. Am I safe when logged off and when sleeping? Can soemone kill me/steal from my eq/inventory?

PS
There should be some protectors (band of soldiers) that force ppl to pay taxes and giving protection in return. By the time some bands grow and countries would be formed. Those countries would fight each other in order to expand its influence. Why did it not happen in this game ? :P But this is topic for another thread I think.
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Re: Unfriendly People/Griefers/Criminals General

Postby Cranny » Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:06 pm

Noizz1 wrote:Thank You all for replies and advices.

I will try to play with the new attitude (no more afking during fishing :/)

I have one more question. Am I safe when logged off and when sleeping? Can soemone kill me/steal from my eq/inventory?

PS
There should be some protectors (band of soldiers) that force ppl to pay taxes and giving protection in return. By the time some bands grow and countries would be formed. Those countries would fight each other in order to expand its influence. Why did it not happen in this game ? :P But this is topic for another thread I think.


I fish with a disposable alt, so if it gets ganked I dont care, and meanwhile i do other stuff.

I think you can be summoned and stolen in your sleep if you have left summonable scents. The one that summons you, needs to be able to see your hf, or the toon has to not have hf. Maybe someone with fighting expertise can confirm this, because idk for sure.

There are friends that like fighting and they do make favors. :D
There is ppl that get paid for revenge.
There are large factions that dominate territory, and that are not easy to defeat.
All the same that happens in the real world, but here there is not any law enforcement.
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Re: Unfriendly People/Griefers/Criminals General

Postby Noizz1 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:56 pm

Cranny wrote:I think you can be summoned and stolen in your sleep if you have left summonable scents. The one that summons you, needs to be able to see your hf, or the toon has to not have hf. Maybe someone with fighting expertise can confirm this, because idk for sure.


Sometimes I encounter ppl sleeping in spruce bough beds. Are they vulnerable to attacks/stealing from eq/inventory?
If I log out using command :lo does my character dissapear or it is visible for others?
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Re: Unfriendly People/Griefers/Criminals General

Postby borka » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:01 pm

ppl sleeping in beds aren't attackable or lootable - the only thing that can happen is that the bed gets destroyed and they might not be able to log in where they logged out. The server takes a moment to log you out completely - no matter how you do logging out - in that short moment you're vulnerable
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