Threatening Runestone

[AnnaC]

I think the aspect that bothers the most is someone is trying to shove me off with force and not trying to be reasonable.

you are the one not being reasonable.
they at least talked to you first, and left a runestone. you are not trying to listen to them why they want you out.

You're being a massive hypocrite. You'll cry about people dictating how you play a game:"you play your game, i play mine. you can NEVER force me to play your game"; then you proceed to force the OP to play in certain ways. He found a place he likes, started building, then being threatened, is being defensive. That's perfectly natural reaction, and I think you're the one being unreasonable for assuming otherwise.

Especially since the people threatening him, may very well just want to monopolize that mountain themselves.


@OP: hopefully you don't claim too much of a mountain, or atleast allow passage depending on how the cliffs in that area work. This will allow others to continue foraging as they can and should leave you alone if you're not obnoxiously disrupting others. But I do suggest you don't actually settle ON mountain terrain, as there is no economic benefit. You can't farm, you can't grow trees, there is nothing economically useful about mountain terrain directly, except for foraging. And people who claim land solely to monopolize foraging does nothing but piss everyone else off.

I would suggest move slightly, to be more on forest terrain so you can actually farm and grow trees, but you'll still be next to the mountain you like. It still might ruffle some jammies, but they'll need to deal with it.

[BlackNail723]

I think the aspect that bothers the most is someone is trying to shove me off with force and not trying to be reasonable.

you are the one not being reasonable.
they at least talked to you first, and left a runestone. you are not trying to listen to them why they want you out.

You're being a massive hypocrite. You'll cry about people dictating how you play a game:"you play your game, i play mine. you can NEVER force me to play your game"; then you proceed to force the OP to play in certain ways. He found a place he likes, started building, then being threatened, is being defensive. That's perfectly natural reaction, and I think you're the one being unreasonable for assuming otherwise.

Especially since the people threatening him, may very well just want to monopolize that mountain themselves.


@OP: hopefully you don't claim too much of a mountain, or atleast allow passage depending on how the cliffs in that area work. This will allow others to continue foraging as they can and should leave you alone if you're not obnoxiously disrupting others. But I do suggest you don't actually settle ON mountain terrain, as there is no economic benefit. You can't farm, you can't grow trees, there is nothing economically useful about mountain terrain directly, except for foraging. And people who claim land solely to monopolize foraging does nothing but piss everyone else off.

I would suggest move slightly, to be more on forest terrain so you can actually farm and grow trees, but you'll still be next to the mountain you like. It still might ruffle some jammies, but they'll need to deal with it.

finally someone with sense, yeah. I just made my base on the mountain cause that's where I was plotted out into the world at first. I've been tempted to move anyway because I can't farm or grow trees like you said. I didn't know there were valuable curios that spawn on the mountains though. Had I known about this when I first started I probably would've made my base somewhere esle.

[Tonkyhonk]

You're being a massive hypocrite. You'll cry about people dictating how you play a game:"you play your game, i play mine. you can NEVER force me to play your game"; then you proceed to force the OP to play in certain ways. He found a place he likes, started building, then being threatened, is being defensive. That's perfectly natural reaction, and I think you're the one being unreasonable for assuming otherwise.

Especially since the people threatening him, may very well just want to monopolize that mountain themselves.

call me whatever you want. but he bothered to create this thread to ask, and i said what i think.
if he wants to be stubborn and play his way and call the other side "unreasonable" without thinking what he is doing, why is he even asking here? at least, i wouldnt ask others advise when i have my strong will to do something. and i really despise the way he tries to make the other side sound "evil" to win some sympathizers like yourself.

if his neighbors wanted to monopolize the mountain, they would have already surrounded it with their claim or walls to give new players no chance. (and now im starting to think claiming a whole mountain might be a good idea because some ignorant arse or a big rich trader wouldnt suddenly start to settle and waste the resource for the neighbors.)

[Eemerald]

I know from previous threads that you're new to haven, abd this incident kinda displays that. We all learn from different things such as this to survive.

Building on a mountain is simply a bad move on many levels. For you it makes you a constant target and fir others around you they dont know your intentions. You might just want a small area, but anyone who uses this vital resource wont know ur intentions. You may extend ur claim, u may stick a village idol there, u may wall a larger section later etc etc. Point being in this game if you put yourself near or on a good resource node then u will constantly be dealing with issues like this.

You can talk to people, we've had issues with a nearby mountain and it was resolved by talking. As long as ure reasonable and understand that its valuable and dont treat others who use it as idiots ull be fine.
If you want more issues id suggest you build elsewhere thats close but not directly on the mountain.

[DDDsDD999]

"This wasn't no movie, the smart thing was to say yes, get up, and leave the room. But then I thought to myself, what if this was a movie?"

Tell them, "this is America. My president is black and my Lambo is blue, nigga. Now get the fuck out my hotel room, and if I see you in the street I’m slappin’ the shit out of you."

You'll probably get killed pretty quickly, but it's better than cowering behind walls.

[Cranny]

You dont have the palisade up yet, so everything you own is there to be taken, destroyed or dumped to make decay; and even if you had your pali up, by this time we have many players that are able to bash a palisade with no need of a ram.
You are being threatened but you must see this players could have easily destroyed all your stuff and kill your toons, and they decided instead to warn you. Imho they dont seem to be unreasonable for H&H ways considering you are taking for yourself a vital resource they where using and probably consider to be theirs.
So they where not polite or diplomatic, and they could have choosen to speak to you by leaving a skype adress or an alts name so you could pm them, or could have asked in a more civil way for you to move. In my point of view the important thing here is that they decided to let your toon live, you have been lucky so far because you are at this post just asking what to do, the vast majority of new players to Haven settling on a mountain would be complaining because they where killed, lost everything and some feeling so bad that even quit the game.
It takes time to understand the non written rules that are used in H&H, property of non claimed resources and grid areas near to settlements, and it is hard to learn H&H ways.
Starting times are rude here, or at least it seems to me, I am still not able to understand that players make people drive away from the game just for the lols.

[celestial]

Honestly man everyone has a good point in one way or another. With that being said and as i have been playing for quite some time I know how frustrating it is to find a mountain and want to forage and finding it to be claimed. In haven we are all able to take what ever path in the game we desire and some take a path they desire most and others pay the price for that, but thats how the game goes. In haven well..... NOONE makes it out alive.... sooner or later there is gonna be someone bigger and badder then you and they are gonna wanna kill you wether for what you have or for sh*ts and giggles. My suggestion to you is, take the path that is most desirable to you but be cautious and understand that not everyone in the game will be willing to work things out. With palli bashing being so easy these days brick is definatly the way to go and I am sure there is someone in the Apples & Oranges that may be able to work out a trade wit you for what you need for it. But if these people left you a runestone that is their way of trying to work it out but if they are strong or a member of a faction they will easily plow right through you. There are many big and bad people in the game that can destroy your place in no time flat. But staying is putting you at risk and you have no idea if they are a member of a big faction in this game and if they are my suggestion to you is dont piss them off cuz you will pay the ultimate price. I feel your pain and i can relate to people not wanting you to stay where you feel like settting up camp ive been through it a few times my self. moving is quite a pain but dying and starting over with very little is even worse in my eyes. I hope things work out but i definatly agree that maybe your best option would be move next to the mountain and set up claim. then when you can if you want access to that mountain or part of it set up a claim on it but allow theft and stuff on that part of ur claim (use an alt to claim it so u can still keep your home safe but allow people to forage on the mountain as well) i dont know how well that will work but its a better chance of surviving. If all else fails try to find a friendly village and try to join that way you dont have to start building all over and you have more help. safety for non faction members lies in numbers.

[MrGemini]

what? your base is actually ON a mountain? not too close or anything? and palisades?
oh wow, you must be the center of attentions in your neighborhood ... its like begging all your neighbors to kill you.
im pretty sure your neighbors find YOU a bully, and not many would feel sorry for you about this runestone.

if you dont understand why, id recommend you to just move out for now and then read some guides on the forums.

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[borka]

sorry i had to ROFL when reading OP - a short look at world map would tell that it's not a good idea to settle on those mountains as a beginner ...

[Koonty]

Sigh, I even declaimed some abandoned farm with crops and stuff like screen away from that mountain for you to live. I have no problems with hermits living near, If i did I would kill you right away. The thing is that foraging on a mountain is one and building, walling off is another. Choice is yours tho