Vet. Looking For A Village

[jordancoles]

Dont forget your boar tusk helmet.

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[Amanda44]

@ Jordan -

@ Jesus_Smith_Nandez - raphsody69 is right, it's your own limitations and perceptions that prevent you from understanding what I'm saying. You don't hermit like I do, lol.

@ Bob_the_Cat - thanks, - one thing though, I don't need high q stuff, I don't need medium q stuff, lol, I want it - I may not be using it to enter into pvp but it is still an objective of the game, I want an awesome char, I want to keep improving my quality and I want to do better each world - otherwise what would keep me playing, lol. I am a competitive player I'm just realistic enough to know I can't keep up with the factions as a hermit.

[Sarge]

1st up, apologies, simply tl;dr

Briefly, if you are a hermit, no matter how diligent, if you don't keep abreast with the forums, you would for example not even know that bw-bashers exist... and I am willing to admit that the average hermit doesn't.

How much jewelry of what quality does a hermit own? By far the greater majority of hermits don't even know how to properly apply what jewelry where and how etc etc. Hell, most 'me and my mates' villages don't know either.

I could literally go on with examples like that for an entire page and EVERYTHING synergises in this game.

You don't know jack-shit if you have never been part of a jacked-up village to have learnt about these things, what they can do and how to maximise the potential benefit. You could have played this game for 5 years and if you have not experienced it, you are a noob.

[Amanda44]

1st up, apologies, simply tl;dr

You don't know jack-shit if you have never been part of a jacked-up village to have learnt about these things, what they can do and how to maximise the potential benefit. You could have played this game for 5 years and if you have not experienced it, you are a noob.

Also, both LadyV and I have been in predominant villages, LadyV admittedly has more experience than myself, I was more part time, so we are not clueless here. I'm not arguing you don't learn a lot from faction life, I learnt lots, I'm simply stating that you also learn a lot from hermitting by the nature of it and that you are still aiming for the same goals of raising quality and being the best you can be in each of the roles you have to cover, the comments in this thread made hermits sound like simpletons and way underestimated the work load and strategies that lead to successful hermitting.

Imo all players should experience both for a good all round knowledge of the game, the importance of having structure and the social aspects

I'm clearly not your average hermit.

[Tonkyhonk]

its just that some vets cant see the changes since w3/4 as they dont play long enough much any more, and they easily get offended by newer players calling themselves "vet" as well. (even though it doesnt quite seem like op would fit into "vet" category in my definition either.) i remember how burg was furious about whatever i said to him and called me a nobody noob who doesnt even have a grip of any end-game stuff or something along that line. having certain high q jewelry seems to be a big deal for some *vets*.

there is basically nothing that hermits "cannot" obtain now unlike how it was in previous worlds or shorter worlds, it just takes some time and efforts. with the curiosity system and mining change, anyone dedicated enough can get their hands on any item with friends help or simply by trades. you just have to be either lucky or persistent to get gold and silver, the only thing hard for hermits could be killing trolls (and pvp ganking mess), but you can find someone who would love to kill a troll for you for some fee. its more about "soon" or "later".

curiosities made it much easier for new players to buy things that were hardly obtainable in the previous worlds, and also much easier for anyone to maintain their village authorities. they did a lot of harms to the game in different ways, but at the same time, it has hugely narrowed the game-play gap between newbs and vets or between big villages and small villages.

sure, there are things like bugs and exploits that only big factions or botters/abusers keep to themselves, but many of the ex-secret information has been semi-open to the community nowadays unless its political. what hermits can never learn is certain top-tier politics, group combat, and big village managements. yet, you can still experience some by allying or befriending with one of the top factions. those who want efficiency either join a big faction (or bot and abuse), those who dont mind their slow pace can still experience certain end-game with a lot of fun without pressures as long as they know what they are doing, with the world lasting long enough.

unless your definition of "hermit" is someone who never trades and makes no friends but plays like a single player offline, im afraid its not any more too hard to experience many different aspects of the game by oneself or just with a very few people. it is up to devs to decide whether this is good or bad for their ideal goals.

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tl;dr for you, sarge,
you could have played this game so long as a vet and if you have not experienced how its working in the present world, you are also a noob.

[bitza]

Briefly, if you are a hermit, no matter how diligent, if you don't keep abreast with the forums, you would for example not even know that bw-bashers exist... and I am willing to admit that the average hermit doesn't.

if you don't keep abreast with the actual game you might not even know that bw-bashers don't exist and haven't existed since world 3

[Sarge]

I'm clearly not your average hermit.

Agreed.

[Sarge]

tl;dr for you, sarge,
you could have played this game so long as a vet and if you have not experienced how its working in the present world, you are also a noob.

That hurt me exactly as much as the amount of offence I took from the op calling himself a vet.

[Xcom]

Your all a bunch of scrubs. A hermit taken directly out of a wiki: "A hermit (adjectival form: eremitic or hermitic) is a person who lives, to some degree, in seclusion from society."

Neither the OP or Amanda is a true hermit, both of them have broken all 3 hermit rules.

A. Plays alone.
B. Never trades.
C. Never posts on this forum.

[Amanda44]

Your all a bunch of scrubs. A hermit taken directly out of a wiki: "A hermit (adjectival form: eremitic or hermitic) is a person who lives, to some degree, in seclusion from society."

Neither the OP or Amanda is a true hermit, both of them have broken all 3 hermit rules.

A. Plays alone.
B. Never trades.
C. Never posts on this forum.

a person who lives, to some degree, in seclusion from society.

A. I do play alone, to some degree
B. I rarely trade, esp after the initial upping of my tools.
C. Erm ..........

I'm more of a modern day hermit:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 59656.html