My thoughts on the "big boys"

[Xcom]

The only people playing haven are either bot factions or new players who haven't gotten to the grinding stage yet. There is also a select few that stubbornly refuse to use bots. Noone in haven would stick around doing farming trough food for cows another 12 months by hand or some of the other heavy task demanding jobs. Its to repetitive and grindy doing it manually. This is the 3rd world in a row with no changes other then a complete reboot. People have grown tired of the game as everything have stagnated explaining the low player count. Bots in fact is the glue thats currently is keeping the few people around still interested.

You should also note that PvP in haven is not about stats or infinite steel/cheese/curio production. Most pvpers find time to pvp and therefore do less grindy stuff i.e. bot stuff. It doesn't take 1000s of stats to go raid a noob. All you need is 2 friends with 200UA and 100 STR and your set. You can get that in less then week without bots and just about every noob that gets raided gets killed by shitty developed alts that people run around with killing noobs for the shits and giggles.

People that bot often do so to compeat in the arms raise so faction A wont fall behind faction B. If your dumb and situate yourself on there doorsteps then it doesn't take a genius to figure out your at there mercy.

This is a survival sandbox. Figure out how to survive or leave the game like all the other quitters before you.

[borka]

"Cascading failure" on the go ... religious arguing ...

[Unhelpful]

You should also note that PvP in haven is not about stats or infinite steel/cheese/curio production. Most pvpers find time to pvp and therefore do less grindy stuff i.e. bot stuff. It doesn't take 1000s of stats to go raid a noob. All you need is 2 friends with 200UA and 100 STR and your set. You can get that in less then week without bots and just about every noob that gets raided gets killed by shitty developed alts that people run around with killing noobs for the shits and giggles

wtb friends like these

im so bored

[jordancoles]

[Tonkyhonk]

I know all about this game

you are such an annoying kid, xcom. stop speaking for others and only speak for yourself and your friends please.
if bots are the only thing that keeps you guys playing, hey, we dont need you, please go ahead and move on to a game with lots of updates.
i understand how you are excited about your first scripting experience and using this as your playground, but stop assuming everyone else is feeling the same just because people playing with you talk the same way as you do and they praise you for your shits.

this is a survival sandbox. not botting sandbox. figure out how to enjoy the game or leave the game with all the other rusty botters along.

[mvgulik]

You kids should stop trying to force your personal view on how this game is to be enjoined by others.

For fuck sake, the whole game, as a game, is a sandbox.

[Jessie]

*cough* Pot calling the kettle black *cough*

Wow, cheap shot.

[Tonkyhonk]

you believe it or not, mvgulik, that is my point. but i wouldnt condone the act of encouraging bots by saying "everyone" or "Noone*".

[ramones]

Well if someone enjoys scripting and botting and he does not influence gameplay of others I don't see a problem here. I think Xcoms playstyle is complete opposite of those who are trying to bot4win.

[NOOBY93]

Well if someone enjoys scripting and botting and he does not influence gameplay of others I don't see a problem here. I think Xcoms playstyle is complete opposite of those who are trying to bot4win.

If B's playstyle is to kill A and C, but A and C bot their stats, B's playstyle was influenced indirectly. The way the game wotks, even botting for peace influences others.