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Re: My silk!

Postby Kaios » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:21 pm

MinuteMad wrote:sorry didnt want the farmville community to be mad at me for saying out loud what most people think


Most people don't think that though as you can clearly see from the numerous people supporting her. Amanda is a nice person and keeps to herself and as far as I know does no harm to anyone despite those few vocal individuals with something against her.

Yes this is the state of the game we play and these things happen and so on and so forth but I don't agree that anyone would have done it, not everyone plays that way. In fact, it really is a vocal minority.
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Re: My silk!

Postby Amanda44 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:22 pm

MinuteMad wrote:You cant really decide to live alone and expect people to treat you differently. It was a free raid and anyone would have done it. You are lucky most people would have leveled the entire place.

Sucks for you but there's no mercy in this game.
At least you got people to get you back on your feet. Good luck

P.S. Key in a chest by the gate and a crossroad going inside your base... i would be ashamed and delete this thread if I was you.


Well, I disagree anyone would have done it, as Kaios said, I know many that wouldn't.

I know I shouldn't expect to get treated differently but I can't help but feel that even as a raider there must be limits, idk, you have a fair point I suppose - but most people feel it unjust when these things happen, I'm only human. :)
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Re: My silk!

Postby MinuteMad » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:40 pm

Kaios wrote:Most people don't think that though as you can clearly see from the numerous people supporting her. Amanda is a nice person and keeps to herself and as far as I know does no harm to anyone despite those few vocal individuals with something against her.


Stop trying to make this about Amanda idiot... It was simply someone getting raid
How are people suppose to know this is Amanda place... Also probably more than 95% of the community probably doesn't even know her therefor give a shit about her. Stop trying to turn this into something big... someone failed... got raided boohoo lets move on it happen all the time cause guess what... this is the dam game you are playing.

Also when i say most people would do it I'm not talking about the farmville heroes community.

And btw living alone doesn't make you an hermit. You got an army of people helping you apparently
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Re: My silk!

Postby Jojjkano » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:48 pm

MinuteMad wrote:
Kaios wrote:Most people don't think that though as you can clearly see from the numerous people supporting her. Amanda is a nice person and keeps to herself and as far as I know does no harm to anyone despite those few vocal individuals with something against her.


Stop trying to make this about Amanda idiot... It was simply someone getting raid
How are people suppose to know this is Amanda place... Also probably more than 95% of the community probably doesn't even know her therefor give a shit about her. Stop trying to turn this into something big... someone failed... got raided boohoo lets move on it happen all the time cause guess what... this is the dam game you are playing.

Also when i say most people would do it I'm not talking about the farmville heroes community.

And btw living alone doesn't make you an hermit. You got an army of people helping you apparently


Everyone knows her place u riptard post on your mainacc or get out of my sight.
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Re: My silk!

Postby Kaios » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:54 pm

MinuteMad wrote:Stop trying to make this about Amanda idiot...


The thread is about Amanda, though. I understand your argument and in most circumstances you would be right, but there's always exceptions or mitigating factors that you have to take in to consideration as is the case here. It doesn't matter that they may not have known whose place it was DURING the raid. They know now.
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Re: My silk!

Postby venatorvenator » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:07 pm

There are raiders and raiders. I know a few who have a code of honor and give themselves strict limits to what they do to others. Being a raider is not the same thing as being an asshole.

This was a miscalculation by raiders who didn't weight the consequences of what they did. Someone said what her did was a noob mistake. But what the raiders did was a noob mistake as well. Seriously, at least read a claim's stones before looting.

At any rate, you see how many people are supporting her, so it would be a reasonable decision to give all her stuff back. When you raid someone who has helped most of the community, through so many worlds and in so many different ways, and who lives alone and doesn't bother anyone, you can expect bad things to happen to you.
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Re: My silk!

Postby Fuzztmeow » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:47 pm

from a outsiders point of view i do believe both minutemaid and and the rest of you do have valid points. first amanda has done alot for the community in the ways of trading and raising quality. but at the same time minute has a point. If a true hermit that no one really talked to was raided and all that was taken. would the same amount of help from the community still exhist? or would they become a new target because they secretly were able to get their items that high? personally i try not to leave scents because i dont wanna be tracked and i hate making brick walls so thankyou everyone for helping her. i hope you get your stuff back or at least replaced and i hope you all help me the same as your helping her when i eventually get raided
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Re: My silk!

Postby Tonkyhonk » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:16 pm

Fuzztmeow wrote:would the same amount of help from the community still exhist?

it really depends on who you are and how you have acted or how others think/expect you would act.
this is mmo, after all. interactions with other players (no matter in game or on the forums as long as its related) weigh highly. its not that you have to be famous nor to have high post counts, but that helps too sometimes indeed. but most of the time your ingame behaviors help you more for your reputations and helps you when you post on the forums for the first time too. we all know some people only got loud mouths but no actual actions witnessed in game.

also, we, the community, tend to disregard those coward voices hidden by alt accounts.
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Re: My silk!

Postby Amanda44 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:17 pm

Fuzztmeow wrote: first amanda has done alot for the community in the ways of trading and raising quality. ........ able to get their items that high?


Erm, no, that's not what he meant - you make it sound like I had high end products, I really don't, lol, I am way behind most people simply because I do hermit, it has taken me all world to get to that stage!

Venatorvenator is exaggerating slightly, thanks tho, lol, I help new people is what I do and help them build their bases, show them things and answer millions of questions - :lol: - with a smile on my face. But so do many others that I know.

There are lots of players who do far more for the community than I do, trust me. :)
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Re: My silk!

Postby venatorvenator » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:41 pm

Yeah, most was too much.

On hermitages, these old posts speak a lot (from tonyhonk and amanda, I won't bother adding quotes and subs).

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For me hermitting has always been more enjoyable than the race to power but that doesn't equal less knowledge or effort if you want to advance as quickly as possible, when it comes to hermitting the choice of how you play, how much you learn and how fast you pace yourself is down to you, it doesn't render it non-existent unless you choose to play that way.

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there is basically nothing that hermits "cannot" obtain now unlike how it was in previous worlds or shorter worlds, it just takes some time and efforts. with the curiosity system and mining change, anyone dedicated enough can get their hands on any item with friends help or simply by trades. you just have to be either lucky or persistent to get gold and silver, the only thing hard for hermits could be killing trolls (and pvp ganking mess), but you can find someone who would love to kill a troll for you for some fee. its more about "soon" or "later".

curiosities made it much easier for new players to buy things that were hardly obtainable in the previous worlds, and also much easier for anyone to maintain their village authorities. they did a lot of harms to the game in different ways, but at the same time, it has hugely narrowed the game-play gap between newbs and vets or between big villages and small villages.

sure, there are things like bugs and exploits that only big factions or botters/abusers keep to themselves, but many of the ex-secret information has been semi-open to the community nowadays unless its political. what hermits can never learn is certain top-tier politics, group combat, and big village managements. yet, you can still experience some by allying or befriending with one of the top factions. those who want efficiency either join a big faction (or bot and abuse), those who dont mind their slow pace can still experience certain end-game with a lot of fun without pressures as long as they know what they are doing, with the world lasting long enough.

unless your definition of "hermit" is someone who never trades and makes no friends but plays like a single player offline, im afraid its not any more too hard to experience many different aspects of the game by oneself or just with a very few people. it is up to devs to decide whether this is good or bad for their ideal goals.

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So raiding hermitages is both counterproductive and asshole-like. Counterproductive because the items will always be low and medium q and you might waste more resources in building a ram than you'll get looting it, and unethical because that's so much wasted effort on the part of the raided player.
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