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Re: The Edelreich | News & Discussion

Postby ramones » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:31 pm

I'd love to see union (poles, russians, muricans) that would backstab the shit out of itself. Probably Koya can lead it from work ¦]
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Re: The Edelreich | News & Discussion

Postby Vaku » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:00 pm

venatorvenator wrote:The concern seems to be that too much power will be held by few unknown people, and that there will be too many rules and too much homogeneity.

Instead of a union why not just propose a confederation, where faction and regional leaderships would be able to talk to each other about their stuff? No leaders, no constitution, no rigid control from above, just a better communication channel and openness toward different playstyles.


Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this has been attempted in various iterations of Skype Conference Rooms. Those who entered last year's conference witnessed the conversation devolve rapidly. Today it is called "Shit Trade Chat (Officially a bully free zone) - Daily Dose of Kittens: http://i.imgur.com/1O2XcQC.gif"

I think it behooves any of us interested in more collaborative playstyles to begin small. Yes, start as a hermit, Yes, find a village of your own—but when you feel ready, the option to graduate to a larger group is open to you. That's the point of the Edelreich. It is invitation based.

But at the same time, the group is a closed system, in that its resources are fundamentally for its members and at the disposal of its members. The group is also semi-permeable, wherein it accepts virtually anyone with very low barriers to entry.

The old iteration of this group was based on the U.S. Constitution, so there were undisputed village leaderships, which at the same time had a Union-wide influence.

I see your point there is plenty of worry about who will be in control, who are the unknowns, and if there will be too many rules, but the greatest way to control that outcome is to join the talks: Add sovietskya on Skype to speak to jcm. Adding your voice into the mix makes the group more diverse, and very few detractors have added their voice.

I do not know what it will become after handing it to jcm and his group, (I'm still not the leader guys, and I don't want to be the leader) I just know I want to be part of a larger democratic group than the average village.
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Re: The Edelreich | News & Discussion

Postby Vaku » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:00 pm

News from Taqimathi!
An interim congress of the Edelreich has put out a general call, inviting "noobs around the world" into the Union! These noobs will be accepted "graciously" as project laborers and "temporary residents," says jcm2214. According to jcm214, the job location appears to be Edelheim! Rumors say Edelheim became a ruin, eight to seven months ago, due to an increase in barbarian activities! The Edelreich Press waits patiently for individuals to come forward with accounts of Edelheim's fall.

One concerned hearthling, KennyoftheSands, owner and proprietor of Trade topic, has called the Edelreich a desperate attempt to get crossroads around the hearths. At this time, no comment has been issued from interim congress members.

Currently, it is unclear what noobs will be paid for their work on the restoration of Edelheim. Some citizens in Taqimathi complain about outsourcing. "Why should I give up my carrot cake for a noob who just digs clay?" says a disgruntled explorer. Others in Taqimathi defend noob immigration! "I don't see all the trouble of hiring aliens," says a cook, "we all basically need to look out for each other. Who knows, maybe they will want to stick with us permanently?" A Taqimathi laborer remarks, "We have the picks, the shovels, the bags and things. I think working on Edelheim would be a great experience for anyone new to the Hearthlands."

Stay alert for further updates!
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Re: The Edelreich | News & Discussion

Postby Robertzon » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:55 pm

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Re: The Edelreich | News & Discussion

Postby Jesus_Smith_Nandez » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:25 pm

Robertzon wrote:this is 2edgy4me

I'm 2 fookin' edged m8
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Re: The Edelreich | News & Discussion

Postby ramones » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:55 am

Its time, join now! We're in, we're having so much fun!
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Re: The Edelreich | News & Discussion

Postby KennyoftheSands » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:25 pm



jcm2214 wrote:Doing god's work.


So your goal is to unite people and promote peace, yet you harass players around the forums? Is this supposed to be the foundation we're supposed to put our trust in? Even if the subject is about Frost, little is known of him, and as founder of a faction you shouldn't judge by whatever goes around on the forums.

I must say however, that it's very nice to know you prioritize your forum time harassing players over answering posts in your village's News & Discussion thread.

The goals of this village give me a good feeling. My problem is that all questions are answered vaguely, and there's no indication of knowing how an application will go. Would I have to give you a port to my hermitage? Who will have access to it? Am I getting one to an outpost? If I'd join a town, what would I be expected to do? And more importantly, what would I gain? And who will lead this thing? The leading people will probably have the power to get the entire village and anyone affiliated killed. Can you trust them now everyone knows of your plans? And will they be as sketchy as the resurrector, jcm2214?

There's so little information, yet all of the information is spread through 3 threads, and many questions have never been answered yet. Is the idea too immature to answer on the forums? If so, why make 3 threads and spam the forums? Throwing everyone in a skype chat and letting them fight it out sounds like a lazy thing to do, anyways. This must mean there's hardly any organized core you have attempted to create thusfar, so every answer you gave anyone on the forums must be still in discussion. Yet you have answered EC with an answer to their liking, that peace will be promoted^. Are we to understand this as a declaration of war? Join us or die? I doubt your soldiers will sit in their forts hunting animals all day, because bashing rams is all that village defense really is.
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Re: The Edelreich | News & Discussion

Postby Niza » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:11 pm

It is my understanding that Emerald City is going to join this...this....thing. Faith in humanity lost !
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Re: The Edelreich | News & Discussion

Postby Amanda44 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:38 pm

To be fair, all the time Emerald is involved in this project I wouldn't worry too much, Emerald has always supported a persons right to chose their playstyle and I very much doubt she would remain part of a group that would force people to play governments and politics in their spare time if they didn't want to. :)

Edit: Just to be clear, it doesn't change my views on the overall idea, just saying you are better off with Emerald in it than out of it.
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Re: The Edelreich | News & Discussion

Postby jcm2214 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:43 pm

Amanda44 wrote:To be fair, all the time Emerald is involved in this project I wouldn't worry too much, Emerald has always supported a persons right to chose their playstyle and I very much doubt she would remain part of a group that would force people to play governments and politics in their spare time if they didn't want to. :)

Edit: Just to be clear, it doesn't change my views on the overall idea, just saying you are better off with Emerald in it than out of it.

The current model I'm developing would be 1 rep 1 village. This would also allow those that wish to be politicians to do so and those that don't to stay out a bit.
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